Author Topic: Country Switching Proposal  (Read 1288 times)

Offline SlipKnt

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Country Switching Proposal
« on: October 01, 2009, 10:20:37 PM »
Currently, a player can switch sides to assist in locating a CV.  Get it sunk, then switch back in an hour.  Additionally, can help to drive up ENY.  Then, when the damage is done, switch back in an hour.  On this game, an hour isn't that long.

I propose to change the time you have to wait.  My idea is instead of an hour, remain at switched country for 24 hours.  It would make anyone think twice before "jumping" for an hour, call out the CV and drive up ENY then switch back.  We all see it and there is nothing we can do about it.   

Spying, "gaming the game", cheating...   Call it what you want.  It takes time to get a CV into a position to launch an attack.  Making someone wait 24 hours on a country they never normally fly would make them think twice about "gaming the game". 

My "Wish List" is to consider a longer wait time if switching countries.  Propose, 24 hours, 1 week, or 1 tour.  I think 24 hours would sell better.  Think about the midnight players too.  When nobody is on, country jumping occurs frequently to find CVs.  If they had to wait 24 hours, they couldn't get back to help roll the map when noone is on. 

Think about it...

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Offline BigKev03

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 11:24:29 PM »
Why not loose all your perkies?  (Or does thst happen?  I have never switched so I dont know).

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 12:01:43 AM »
I've thought about it and I've decided that it's a bad idea. :)

As someone who changes sides frequently and who dose not care enough about who wins the war it would negatively impact my enjoyment of the game if I couldn't switch to find another fight which typically involves moving from a high population team to one of the lower ones. If I had my way (and it's probably good that I don't) I'd make the time switch shorter.  One hour seems like a decent balance to take the considerations of both camps in mind.

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2009, 12:10:13 AM »
What the previous Headhunter said.  Shorten the time so we can help create better fights if needed.
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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2009, 12:44:38 AM »
Spying, "gaming the game", cheating...   Call it what you want. 

Some of us don't care about 'the war', I like the time switch delay at one hour.
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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #5 on: October 02, 2009, 01:00:17 AM »
I can see this from both points of view.  There are those that will switch sides to spoil the game for others, and there are those who honestly switch sides to even up the arena and make it more fair for everyone.  

I'm not sure what the answer is... but right now there is no penalty at all for switching sides and calling out the location of CV's to your buddies on the other side, or flying alongside your buddies to lead them right to the carrier, or taking control of the CV's and sending them next to your buddies base to get it sunk quicker, or dropping supplies for your friends who are attacking the base whose side you just switched to without worrying about getting shot down, or just passing along tactical info based on what you hear on channel or see on the map.

In real life war... spies can be caught and dealt with.  Not so here.  All you can do is watch it happen.

I do think something needs to be done... its getting rampant. I have seen it happen more and more over the last few weeks and days.  However, increasing the time penalty is going to place a restriction on those who do it for honorable reasons, and are just here for the fight.

So... what about this?  Keep the time allowed to switch back at one hour, BUT impose a 24 hour restriction on voice and text.  Also impose a 24 hour restriction on being able to assume command of a cv group.  This would reduce the ability for spying and "sabotage" by taking away communication and control abilities, but shouldn't have much impact on those that switch sides frequently to make the arenas more balanced and fair... or are just looking for a good fight.

Yeah, you will get guys who set up shade accounts just to be able to get around it.  Some will just make trial account after trial account, and others will spend an additional $14.95 and have a permanent one.  If they want to spend their time and/or money to do that... there is nothing anyone can do... whatever.

And yeah... there is the usual response of "we dont care about the war".  Well... others do.  It's part of what makes the main arenas fun for those who want more than just flying around shooting stuff because it's fun.  If you dont care about the war, why not fly in the DA?  And no... Im not being sarcastic, or negative.  There IS an overall strategy to the way the main arenas are set up... and it involves taking bases to accomplish an objective.

You can say all you want, but the way it is now, a "few" are having "fun" at the expense of many others... which is taking the enjoyment of the game away from them.  Im sure there are those that think its funny... but there are plenty more who don't.  I happen to be one who doesn't.

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #6 on: October 02, 2009, 01:20:44 AM »
Sorry AKP but no, I find the communication between players and squad mates vital to my enjoyment of the game as well as switching sides often to best follow the fight.  How about we just leave it as-is and set an example through the community that devious acts are frowned upon. 
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Offline AKP

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #7 on: October 02, 2009, 01:25:22 AM »
Sorry AKP but no, I find the communication between players and squad mates vital to my enjoyment of the game as well as switching sides often to best follow the fight.  How about we just leave it as-is and set an example through the community that devious acts are frowned upon. 

If only everyone played the game with that attitude, then there wouldn't be an issue at all.  But how do we set the example that those acts are frowned upon, when nothing can, or will, be done to those that do them?

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2009, 01:31:40 AM »
just get rid of the perk points and allow everybody to up in any plane/gv that they want.  it wont stop all country switching, but at least will stop the ones that just switch to pork or get the easy perks when the other side is about to win.  way too many people switch at the end.

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2009, 01:40:10 AM »
just get rid of the perk points and allow everybody to up in any plane/gv that they want.  it wont stop all country switching, but at least will stop the ones that just switch to pork or get the easy perks when the other side is about to win.  way too many people switch at the end.

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That would create a whole 'nother set of problems.  Like skies full of 262's in LW.  Fleets of Tigers in the MW.  No, I dont think that is the answer either.  Perks are there for a reason.  Yeah, I have seen the side switchers when one side is about to win, and that isnt the issue here.  It's switching sides to actively undermine the enjoyment of the game for others that is the problem.  

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2009, 01:44:16 AM »
didnt we have in place before, or maybe we still do, a time limit on getting the bonus perks for winning the war? something like you had to be in country for a certain number of hours before you were awarded perks?

maybe Im just gettin old and forgetful or imagination running wild...... but I thought we had this in place at one time
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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2009, 06:14:06 AM »
I've seen this play from all sides over the years.

Side balancing suffers badly if the wait time is any more than an hour.

Spying and funky cv games increases if its less than 12 hours.

Its a lose lose situation where there is no perfect balance.
No matter which way you tip the board your going to lose.

So the answer is to use community peer pressure vs the spying and funky cv games.
Same only positive pressure to encourage people to switch for side balancing.
Set change times to 2 hours and leave it there.

But thats just my opinion, we all know what its worth.

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2009, 07:20:46 AM »
Used to be 24 hours.  Not a thing one way or the other for me.  24 is fine or 12 or 92 :)

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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2009, 08:28:54 AM »
Peeking here.......or here,

Still the same thing, anonymous or not. Only difference is, face-to-face at the game table you might not like the results if you get caught. ;)
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Re: Country Switching Proposal
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2009, 08:48:04 AM »
Spies?
Why would anyone spy and cheat to win a cartoon war?
Seems like a waste of time and maybe just downright dishonest.
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