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Offline LLv34_Camouflage

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« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2000, 05:51:00 AM »
 
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IMO, the 'best 10' list boils down to 'which were the 10 fighters which had the greatest effect on the aerial war?  So here goes    

Why no Finnish Air Force planes on this list?  

Throughout the war the finns were fighting against a numerically superior enemy.  Only during the initial stages of the continuation war in summer 1941 the FAF had better equipment than the russians. During the first few weeks the Brewster pilots faced mainly the obsolescent I-16's and I-153's. They were quickly replaced with LaGG-3's and MiG's, however.

By autumn 1942 the finns were in a serious disadvantage, with even the Brewsters being outperformed by the new russian planes.  All other FAF fighters were not achieving too good results, and sometimes even required BW escorts.

During winter-spring of 1943, Finland received the first 109 G-2's from Germany. This helped the BW pilots situation a lot.  Even though the best russian planes had better performance than the 109's, the finns managed to establish local air superiority where ever they went.

During the last few months of the war, more G-6's were acquired, which helped the situation immensely.  The Finns could stop the russian ground attack by fending off the ground attacks of the russian air force, and by escorting their own bombers to their targets.  As an interesting detail, not one FAF bomber was lost to russians, when escorted by 109's.

I would definately include the BW and MT to the list. They bore the main weight of denying the use of the russian air weapon over Finland. I'd say that's quite an effect on aerial war.

In the European Theater of Operations, only two capitals of the war-going countries were not invaded. London and Helsinki.

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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2000, 06:16:00 AM »
 
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In the European Theater of Operations, only two capitals of the war-going countries were not invaded. London and Helsinki.


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Ahem...and Moscow  

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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2000, 06:59:00 AM »
Just a point - says who? .

Oh, an ex-Grumman guy... What if the list was compiled by a German pilot? British? Russian?

I don't think there can be such a thing as The Best Fighter. You need to specify shedload of criteria to even be able to compare planes. Not to mention quality of pilots' training who flew those planes (Camo keeps nugging us with exceptional performance of a crappy old Brewster ).

Jekyll: Hurri did not "win" the BoB. According to Discovery Channel, it were Germans who lost it.



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« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2000, 08:34:00 AM »
 
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Ahem...and Moscow    

Sorry my friend, but Moscow was indeed invaded during Barbarossa.  Not conquered, but invaded. Or what do you call 130mm artillery shells in the red square?  

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« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2000, 09:16:00 AM »
I'm not sure why the 38 is ranked after the Zero. It ultimately achieved the best score against that fighter for the AAF, due its better performance in climbs, dives, and speed. It may have been able to turn with the zero after it got the Maneuver flaps, but even in that unlikely situation, B&Z worked far better. We all know that energy fighters are far preferred in AH.

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« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2000, 04:42:00 PM »
Jekyll:

If you're going to put the A6M on that list, you're going to have to rank it *under* the F4F Wildcat, which pretty much beat the A6M in the battles that really counted.

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2000, 04:13:00 AM »
Camo - I beg to differ... Invaded means troops. Ground troops. No stupid projectiles, thank you very much. And the last invader who managed to get into Moscow was Napoleon (and he was let to occupy the city rather than took it by force).

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« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2000, 04:43:00 AM »
Ok, I'll make it easy for you:

Fill in the blanks:

In the European Theater of Operations, only two capitals of the war-going countries were not __________. London and Helsinki.


And don't change the end meaning of the sentence, please.  

Camo

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