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Offline bustr

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Yak3
« on: October 02, 2009, 09:18:18 PM »
From some recent reading I did about the Yak3, it seems to be a smaller, faster and more maneuverable version of the Yak9U we have in the game. I realise it has the same gun package, but what would it's impact be in the LW arenas? The Yak9U has a small enough profile to require well placed shots to hit it along with it's high top end speed at LWMA furball alts. I've flown against Chanzz enough to respect the 9U's real top end performance qualities.

So what could be expected if HiTech threw it into the mix?
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2009, 10:30:42 PM »
IIRC about the Yak 3, if introduced in the game, it will make the "Perk the La7" whines sound like distant whimper in the wind and replaced with the thunder clap bellow of "PERK THE YAK 3!!!!!!"


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Re: Yak3
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2009, 10:56:43 PM »
Well yeah, but 99.99999999% of those are just going to be squeakes with dreams of being an ace, and beating all who oppose them, only to realize its harder to play than they think when they engage an ace in yak3 when its their first flight WHILE flying an overloaded Fw190A8 without using WEP, and using improper technique...
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2009, 12:02:16 AM »
IIRC about the Yak 3, if introduced in the game, it will make the "Perk the La7" whines sound like distant whimper in the wind and replaced with the thunder clap bellow of "PERK THE YAK 3!!!!!!"


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The Yak-3 would hardly make a splash due to its limited endurance, firepower and ammo.  Performance wise it would be a slightly snappier Yak-9U with a lower top speed.


The WWII Yak-3 was powered by the VK105 engine, not the more powerful VK107 that produced the incredible performance.  The Yak-9U does have a VK107 though.
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2009, 12:31:34 AM »
Yup, Karnak is right that the Yak-3 was slower than the Yak-9U.
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2009, 04:10:16 AM »
What would happen if HTC threw it into the mix? We'd have a more balanced, better "special event ready" planeset. This can be said about many potential additions.

I personally think it would be great, but does the Grapevine crew have the performance data, dimensions and *time* to be able to add it to the game? Who knows. I am glad we are adding new planes at the rate we are, and anything new is a bonus. Yak-3 would be a nice bonus, though.

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Re: Yak3
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2009, 05:44:29 AM »
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2009, 11:23:57 AM »
hehehehe, unless I've got the wrong plane then it would be like the 109G-2 on steroids.
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2009, 02:13:02 PM »
Slower?  It's always been my understanding that the Yak3 was one of the fastes prop planes of WWII. 

I always imagined it being a Yak9 that you couldn't run from.



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Re: Yak3
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2009, 02:24:26 PM »
Well the smaller engine might not matter if it has less drag, and less wight. And at what alt is it fastest at?
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2009, 03:01:59 PM »
Slower?  It's always been my understanding that the Yak3 was one of the fastes prop planes of WWII. 

I always imagined it being a Yak9 that you couldn't run from.



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That is because people always talk about the VK107 powered Yak-3 that saw service in Korea.  The post WWII Yak-3 climbs at over 5,000fpm and had an almost 450mph top speed.  The VK105 powered Yak-3 from WWII doesn't come close to those numbers.  It is the same what people talk about how the P-61 is a fast fighter, when the WWII versions were slower than the N1K2-J.
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2009, 03:40:18 PM »
Ah, I see...
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2009, 03:59:59 PM »
I'd rather see the Mig-3.   Bring a Mig to AH. 
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2009, 07:11:32 PM »
If you want the early soviet plane set that replaced the I16...

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Other than scenarios, the historic performance problems with these planes would make them un-popular in the MA.

If we can step out of our biases, what would the Yak3 be like in normal MA play?
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Re: Yak3
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2009, 08:35:27 PM »
yak -3 came after the 9 although the designs were started first,and it was faster as far as anything i have ever read! it was smaller and lighter, i do not remeber about the motor, but i do know i have read that it could have been the best fighter of the war, with the exeption of amount of rounds, as is with all yaks!
 i have been wanting it for as long as i have been playing and there are many threads about it, just do a search!
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