Change the plane addition criterias

[Boozeman]

Well, the recent Do-335 wish and the easily predictable responses made me think about if should not be some change to the aircraft addition criteria. While I see what the actual criteria is supposed to do (keep what if fanatsy birds of of AH) I also think it rules out very intersting birds, that would not water down the flavor of AH to an anything goes kind of game...

My suggestion would be to alter the addition criteria to something like this:

- The plane should have existed in more that a handful prototypes somewhere between September 1, 1939 and September 2, 1945. That rules out experimental planes and testbeds.

- There should be enough first hand data on the plane to model it to AH standards.

That should be enough not to open the floodgates for Luft-46 style what-ifs, but still have (in my eyes) perfectly valid WW2 hardware the like:

- Do335
- F7F
- F8F
- DH. 103 (probably)
- P-80

and a couple of others.

However, as a price for their rareness, they should be perked very high, just like the 262. Even if the performance would not justify it (at least for prop birds). 

Please note that I'm aware that there are more important planes to be added than these. But I'd be happy if their status would change from  "no-go" to  "perhaps".

       

[Ghosth]

LOL

Sorry, but the rule is, must have seen combat on the squadron level. Not prototypes, one off's, or 2 guys going for a joy ride in the latest sweet thing.

.....My suggestion would be to alter the addition criteria to something like this:.....
Why? What do you gain except inclusion of aircraft which will never be included?

If you want to build a flight sim based around 1946 and what if's go ahead, let me know when its
done.

But I'd rather not see the rules changed.

[Boozeman]

LOL

Sorry, but the rule is, must have seen combat on the squadron level. Not prototypes, one off's, or 2 guys going for a joy ride in the latest sweet thing.

.....My suggestion would be to alter the addition criteria to something like this:.....
Why? What do you gain except inclusion of aircraft which will never be included?

If you want to build a flight sim based around 1946 and what if's go ahead, let me know when its
done.

But I'd rather not see the rules changed.

Did you read my post in detail? Obvoiusly not.

- no 46 what ifs
- no prototypes
- no one offs


Just skip the squadron and combat rule, and have some really unique WW2 gear included.
Those planes were so real as it can get - no fantasy stuff at all.   

Would the inclusion of any of the planes I mentioned harm AH in any way?

[5PointOh]

Hmm...why we dont even have the ones that made combat in squadrons yet. Perhaps we should hope for those first.

Examples:
P-61a/b
He-111
The Beua
P-51A
A-36
 :devilB-29

[Boozeman]

Hmm...why we dont even have the ones that made combat in squadrons yet. Perhaps we should hope for those first.

Examples:
P-61a/b
He-111
The Beua
P-51A
A-36
 :devilB-29

No doubt about that. I never asked them to be on a priority list, just to add the chance of addition at some point in the future. 

[Strip]

IL-2 1946......

[Boozeman]

IL-2 1946......

No, thats not what I want - try harder.  And why give my money to Oleg if it could go to HTC instead?

[waystin2]

I have to say that we work towards filling in the inventory with planes and vehicles that do fall within the current guidelines, then worry about adding the others that fall outside the guidelines.  Do I think we should rule them out entirely?  NO.

[shifty95]

i still think that we need the Raiden. its a perfectly normal interceptor that saw combat at the squadron level in 1944-45

why wish for something that didnt even fight in WW2?

[Anaxogoras]

How about HTC adds the planes that are sorely missing before we worry about the rare birds?  Like the He-111, G4M, Ki-45, Ki-43, J2M-3, Yak-1 and 1B, LaGG-3, Yak-9D, etc.

[LLogann]

This comment........   Will never ever, not in this lifetime, go away.     We'll always be sorely missing something. 

How about HTC adds the planes that are sorely missing before we worry about the rare birds?

I'm not really sure HTC is ready for something such as this, or needs to worry about it really. We do need the "normal" stuff we're missing.   But I do think in the future evolution of AH, say in AH3 maybe, HTC would be benefited with modifying the addition rule.  But that's purely from the business side. 

[morfiend]

 This idea isnt that of base,well except changing the rules.

  I would like to see AHII to a point where all the countries involved in WW2 had somewhat of a palneset,if not a complete set. Then it would be interesting to see HTC expand offer a new arena,launch AHIII,I'm not sure,but then they could model say a Korean war planset and include some "what if's".

 Or my personal favorite,do a WW1 arena,I'm sure if either of these were implemented at the proper time I for 1 would be here for as long as I'm still upright!!!

 

[Anaxogoras]

Almost forgot, FYI:

criteria or criterions = plural
criterion = singular

Carry on.

[APDrone]

No doubt about that. I never asked them to be on a priority list, just to add the chance of addition at some point in the future. 

I'm sure that if HTC decides to change the rules about plane addition at some later point, they're probably empowered to do just that.

In the meantime, Just for arguments' sake, say there are 100 aircraft yet to be added that qualify under the current rules, and, at the current rate of .. what, 4/year .. we're talking about 25 years before we could start to expect to see some post-war uber-rides starting to appear.

I'd be willing to wager some of Filth's body parts that your craving for uber-supremo rides will have waned a bit.

 

[Baumer]

While I concur with the sentiment that there are planes missing that meet the current criteria, I also believe that the wish of the OP has merit.

My personal opinion is that several planes that are currently missing should be added before any of the planes in the "gray area" are added. Additionally I feel that any "gray area" planes should go to specifically bolster a particular countries plane set. As an example, there are many Japanese planes that flew in small numbers and were used in combat at the end of the war, but because of the state of manufacturing in Japan at the end of the war were not in squadron strength.

An different example of how the "rules" could be modified is there were some obsolete aircraft at the begging of the war that did not see combat that could be included.

I think it would be great to fly the original Curtiss Helldiver that was in service just off Hawaii in December of 41.