Thoughts on the P-47M

[GuyNoir]

Yeah, I think it's beautiful that they didn't give the M any ordinance...

If you see one, you know there's only one reason why it's there...   

[Saxman]

*Sits back and waits for the "Perk the 47M!!!!11!1!!!111!!!" whines*

[WWhiskey]

i flew it last night, it was a blast!
 i went afk for to long and got it to 40,000 feet no problem, put it in a shallow dive to 38,000 and leveled off, ran the wep out and clocked it at 493 mph in level flight after 2 minutes! that's movin on! high alt . bombing just got alot more dangerous!

[Kazaa]

The P47M isn't work perking, it's fine as it is.

[waystin2]

I am not a big Jug fan, but the M may make me think twice.  A very fun plane to fly and fight.  It's like a pregnant Spitfire!  

[Saxman]

Kazaa,

I'm not saying *I* think it should be perked (when you get right down to it, it's still a Jug). Just getting a jump on the whines.

[Stoney]

i flew it last night, it was a blast!
 i went afk for to long and got it to 40,000 feet no problem, put it in a shallow dive to 38,000 and leveled off, ran the wep out and clocked it at 493 mph in level flight after 2 minutes! that's movin on! high alt . bombing just got alot more dangerous!

This is one thing that needs to be fixed then.  It shouldn't be able to sustain 493 mph in level flight.  That's around 20 mph faster than any documented test.  To be honest, I haven't done too much testing of the Jug at those types of altitudes, but there was an RPM limit on the turbo that would basically be exceeded if you ran WOT at that altitude.  Ironically, critical altitude in the Jug was basically set by the turbo RPM limit, and not because the turbo ran out of schlitz.

[Guppy35]

*Sits back and waits for the "Perk the 47M!!!!11!1!!!111!!!" whines*

Based on the way they were being flown last night, I'd say no worries about perking it.  No reason too.

[nick172]

The M does have a very high K/D ratio after 1 day of flying. whats funny is the most killed plane buy the M is the M it self.

[caldera]

The "M" has over 2000 kills in less than a day. 

[WWhiskey]

This is one thing that needs to be fixed then.  It shouldn't be able to sustain 493 mph in level flight.  That's around 20 mph faster than any documented test.  To be honest, I haven't done too much testing of the Jug at those types of altitudes, but there was an RPM limit on the turbo that would basically be exceeded if you ran WOT at that altitude.  Ironically, critical altitude in the Jug was basically set by the turbo RPM limit, and not because the turbo ran out of schlitz.

well it was not a vey exacting test! i was closing the store up and could be a little wrong on the numbers,
( being the braggerd that i am sometimes)
but she was moving on i was suprised to see how easy she climbed up there tho!

[BMathis]

I flew it with low fuel loadout.  Was out turning a 51D on the deak, while ducking a BnZ'n La7.  Killed the LA after chewing the pony up, in a the lateral scissors.  Great acceleration from full flap to 0 flaps +wep. 

It's a pretty nice bird.  HTC

[Wmaker]

*Sits back and waits for the "Perk the 47M!!!!11!1!!!111!!!" whines*

I'm not saying *I* think it should be perked (when you get right down to it, it's still a Jug). Just getting a jump on the whines.

Yep, and this is somewhat hillarious considering what you said about the Brewster and the EW just a few days after Brewster's inclusion...

I'm calling it now: Perk on the Brewster in EARLY WAR ARENA.

[Lusche]

"It just does die like any other 47"
"Everybody is flying it now, but soon it will sink into obscurity"

That's two of many similar comments I read on 200 last night. And I disagree thoroughly with them.

The P47M has made the most spectacular entry into AH since the introduction of the Spitfire XVI four years ago, getting about 20% of all kills (planes only).

During 8 days if this tour, the Spit VIII & IX got ~ 2500 kills each, the P-47 M & D40  about 1000 each, the P-51D ~6000.
During the last 21 hours, the 47M got more than 2000 kills. The 51D only ~500.


Now we know everyone is trying a new plane the first few days... but usually people die in it a lot, and finally go back to their usual rides for the most part.

But they are not dying in the 47M! (yes, it's an exaggeration)
Despite drawing  huge number of players (and particularly a huge number of player not used to flying 47's), it has a very high K/D of 1.48. If you look at the ATA kills & deaths only, and remove 47Mvs47M kills to see how it fares against all other aircraft, it's getting to 1.78 even

Currently the 47M is simply blowing the opposition away 

Of course these numbers will drop down again... But after looking at those numbers and examining the perfomance of the 47M  I do think the M will be a very, very common sight in AH. I even predict the 51D losing it's #1 spot on being "most used" plane to the Spit 16, due toa large number of players migrating to the 47M.

[Anaxogoras]

I saw a lot of people dying to the 47M because they thought they could outrun it in their Typhoon, P-51, etc.