Thoughts on the P-47M

[Strip]

Safe to say we get along pretty well....

I love this plane....it will do everything the P-51B will do in a turn fight but has eight 50's!

   

Strip

[caldera]

Of course these numbers will drop down again... But after looking at those numbers and examining the perfomance of the 47M  I do think the M will be a very, very common sight in AH. I even predict the 51D losing it's #1 spot on being "most used" plane to the Spit 16, due toa large number of players migrating to the 47M.

Yep. Don't think it will supplant the 51, but it will result in the Spit16 taking the top spot.  Jugs are fun, both in-game and out. 

[Saxman]

Well, let's give it a couple revisions before making any permanent assessments as any number of things could change (there's already some known bugs reported with fuel loads, MAP is out of calibration, conflicting information about whether it had 6 or 8 guns, or whether they ever carried the large ammunition load, etc).

[Anaxogoras]

1.5 k/d right now, and its largest number of kills by aircraft type were instances of cannibalism.

People are going to adjust to the P-47M just like they adjusted to the B-239, which you rarely see anymore.  The P-47M will always be a main arena presence from now on, but once people stop running from it and show it some healthy respect, we'll like see it's K/D ratio at around 1.15-1.25.

[Lusche]

People are going to adjust to the P-47M just like they adjusted to the B-239, which you rarely see anymore. 

I don't think we can compare this in any way. The 239 can be outrun by almost anything
And it didn't see so much usage and that kind of success even in the 1st 24H

[MjTalon]

She's a beast of a performer no question but she's still a P-47. Nailed a lot of jugs this morning due to their assumption that the P-47M is going to out turn or hang with a 38 deck low. She's still a fat pig but she's just as agile but once your E is gone then she's on the chopping block.

[Saxman]

She's a beast of a performer no question but she's still a P-47. Nailed a lot of jugs this morning due to their assumption that the P-47M is going to out turn or hang with a 38 deck low. She's still a fat pig but she's just as agile but once your E is gone then she's on the chopping block.

That statement pretty much sums it up. It will excel in situations where it can keep above and maintain its airspeed, but it's still a P-47: drag her in close and turn her to death.

[Anaxogoras]

I don't think we can compare this in any way. The 239 can be outrun by almost anything
And it didn't see so much usage and that kind of success even in the 1st 24H

It's a comparison of opposites.  Almost nothing can out-turn the B-239, and it took the Spit pilots a while to stop trying.  It's going to take a similar duration of time for people to learn how to fight the 47M.

[Saxman]

Basically, it's going to take P-51 and Typhoon pilots a while to stop trying to out-run it.

[Anaxogoras]

Basically, it's going to take P-51 and Typhoon pilots a while to stop trying to out-run it.

Yup.

Maybe add 190D-9/109K-4 pilots to that list, too, although the 109K-4/190D-9 are still a bit faster at lower altitudes.  Trying to run away from a 47M that has any speed built up will be futile.

[nick172]

I completely disagree with the low and slow statement. The M is a beast low and slow in the turn fight if your at all a good pilot. twice I beat spit16's on the deck in complete at stall speeds fight. thought that was odd so upped with a squaddy (wrag) him in a 47m me in a g2, right after takeoff slow on the deck, and we both had shots and were about equal, we then switched planes and same thing, 50% fuel in the 47m 50% G2. I would also consider Wrag one of the top pilots in the game. I don’t think I'm to shabby either. You cannot underestimate the M down low and slow if the pilot knows how to handle it. I have 3 kills of seafires in turn fights with them. currently 35 to 5 kill to deaths with 3 of those deaths comming to walking away from the keyboard to help with my 4 month old son.

I would say the M is one of the most stable planes at stall speed.

Skyhawk

[Stoney]

I would say the M is one of the most stable planes at stall speed.

Skyhawk

All P-47s are stable at stall speed--they're incredibly stable in pretty much every phase of flight.  The problem with the D-models is that they lack the power to sustain slow speed maneuvers while lugging all that weight around.  Without WEP, the M is basically a D-40 on military.

[Karnak]

All P-47s are stable at stall speed--they're incredibly stable in pretty much every phase of flight.  The problem with the D-models is that they lack the power to sustain slow speed maneuvers while lugging all that weight around.  Without WEP, the M is basically a D-40 on military.

So it is like the Spit XIV, a monster when it has WEP and nothing special when WEP runs out?

[Shuffler]

Not everyone is trying it.

So far if they stay and fight they die. If they run then come back when your fighting others they may get a kill.

Just another B&Zer so far.

[Saxman]

Not everyone is trying it.

So far if they stay and fight they die. If they run then come back when your fighting others they may get a kill.

Just another B&Zer so far.

This may change a bit at extremely hight altitudes (25,000ft and higher) but definitely would hold true at typical MA altitudes.

She's going to be REALLY popular in late-war Western Front FSOs if they ever use her.