I would love to see this perked

[Jimdandy]

The Martin-Baker MB.5

Power Plant: 1,900hp RR Griffon 83 w/counter rotating props.

Performance: 460mph at 20k. operational ceiling 40k

Arms: 4 20mm cannon.

[Maverick]

Sounds like the perfect medicine for low earth orbit space shuttle buffs.

mav

[M.C.202]

Maverick said:

> Sounds like the perfect medicine for low earth orbit space shuttle buffs.

Nope, that's the escort for them :-)
And the P-82's of course.


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M.C.202
Dino in Reno

[Jimdandy]

I found a picture of it for you guys. I'm in love.   I would really like to see it perked.
 http://www.ghg.net/ltdann/MB%205.htm

[Jimdandy]

You guys got to look at this plane. It's a Mustang plus. It's coool.  

[TheWobble]

sleek and sexy, i like it.

[Jimdandy]

   

Originally posted by Jimdandy:
The Martin-Baker MB.5

Power Plant: 1,900hp RR Griffon 83 w/counter rotating props.

Performance: 460mph at 20k. operational ceiling 40k

Arms: 4 20mm cannon.

Did you notice that the picture states that it will go 470mph and has six 20mm cannon. Hmmm the legend grows.     It's one BAD ride either way.

[This message has been edited by Jimdandy (edited 01-31-2001).]

[Pongo]

The picture said the MB3 had 6 hispanos. Which is true. The MB5 was slated for 6 at one point but was built with 4.
Bill Gunstun rates it at 460mph at 20k.

[Jochen]

How many of these saw action during WWII? I bet not many.

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jochen Gefechtsverband Kowalewski

Units: I. and II./KG 51, II. and III./KG 76, NSGr 1, NSGr 2, NSGr 20.
Planes: Do 17Z, Ju 87, Ju 88A, He 111H, Ar 234A, Me 410A, Me 262A, Fw 190F, Fw 190G.

Sieg oder bolsevismus!

[flakbait]

According to that link only a single MB-5 was ever built, and obviously never saw action. This plane goes in the same category as the F8F; was designed modified or tested during WW2 but never saw any action. To me it looks like a cross between a P-51 and a P-39. And MAN is she smurfy!

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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta 6's Flight School
Put the P-61B in Aces High
"During the Battle of Britain the question 'fighter or fighter-bomber?'
had been decided once and for all: The fighter can only be used as a bomb carrier
with lasting effect when sufficient air superiority has been won." Adolph Galland
 

[Jimdandy]

Yes flak the debate rages on. Should it be available if it never saw combat. I think so. It actually flew. I don't think planes that were only on the drawing board should be available. As someone else said on a different post on the availability debate, if the Allies had been in the same situation as Germany many of these planes would have went into production. That doesn't even matter. I would just love to fly it on here. Just make it expensive. I think everyone forgets that the price of the plane will have a direct effect on how often you see it in the air.

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[whels1]

 

Originally posted by flakbait:
According to that link only a single MB-5 was ever built, and obviously never saw action. This plane goes in the same category as the F8F; was designed modified or tested during WW2 but never saw any action. To me it looks like a cross between a P-51 and a P-39. And MAN is she smurfy!

actually flak, the f8f was a operational plane on combat CVs otw to japan area. just thier luck they didnt encounter any
enemy CVs or islands  . what constitutes  a combat airplane? f8f did fly Cap  missions over thier fleet while otw to front. i bet many pilots never saw a enemy plane during thier tour, does that make them not a combat pilot?

F8F was a production plane, on Carriers otw to the front.

Whels

[Jimdandy]

This plane is a must fly. Two thumbs up.  

[flakbait]

The F8F is a combat aircraft, but does not belong here as it wasn't within 300 miles of an enemy bullet. If it saw combat, it should be here regardless of numbers built or in action. Since neither the F8F or the MB-5 saw combat, they don't belong here. That's just my way of thinking. I don't care if the field they operated from was under constant attack and every last F8F was blasted to bits. Unless that plane got off the ground in a combat zone and either took hits or scored a kill it doesn't belong in Aces High.

If a pilot flew a combat aircraft, he is a combat pilot. However he is not an experienced combat pilot since he didn't see combat. This is the difference between Arm-Chair experts and real pilots; the real pilots have been in war, the Arm-Chair experts just dream about it.

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Flakbait [Delta6]
Delta 6's Flight School
Put the P-61B in Aces High
"With all due respect Chaplian, I don't think God wants to hear from me right now.
I'm gonna go out there and remove one of His creations from this universe.
And when I get back I'm gonna drink a bottle of Scotch like it was Chiggy von Richthofen's blood and celebrate his death."
Col. McQueen, Space: Above and Beyond
 

[Westy]

I disagree with you Flakbait on that, but you and most others know that from my tirads about the subject.  I think people tend to forget that AH is not a simulation of WWII but it is a simulation of air-combat centered around using aircraft produced during the WWII time frame.
  Even HiTech has said an aircraft having not been  produced in large quantity or having seen/not seen combat are not the yard stick to measure an aircrafts inclusion to AH.

  I like that. Maybe I'l be able to fly a DO335 some time too and shoot down a P-51H.

 -Westy

[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 02-02-2001).]