Stuka upgrade

[Bronk]

2 years playing this game and an in depth knowledge of WW2 aircraft. So Ulrich Rudels Ace record of ground kills is void because he didn't have these tank busters, he had a "field mod' and his kills were made by "local tanks' which he took claim for.

That right there excludes it. Not allowed

[Plawranc]

Well, you haven't shown any real knowledge of history, particularly in regards to WW2 aircraft.  Oh, and by the way, I've been playing online flight sims since before you were born. 

So, someone can only post in this thread if they agree with your wildly inaccurate historical wish?  Nut up little man and get used to people disagreeing with you.


ack-ack

Im not talking about disagreement. Im talking about your attitude. In my IMO besides the designation number and armament layouts the difference between the Stuka Variants is almost non-existent. The same goes with all aircraft variants, almost no changes in airframe.

So we have 303. Machine Guns that do no damage and Laser Beam observer guns, but when an armament package is added to an aircraft with NO asthetic changes ITS NOT HISTORICAL.



Please show some sense

[Kweassa]

So we have 303. Machine Guns that do no damage and Laser Beam observer guns, but when an armament package is added to an aircraft with NO asthetic changes ITS NOT HISTORICAL.

Like so many others, you obviously seem to be not able to distinguish between why some aspects of the game are inevitably ahistorical due to necessity, and why others should remain true to history.

So, I'd suggest that before questioning someone else's attitude, you might want to learn the basic rules or tendencies on how the developers of this game chooses their selection of planes or armaments. Because usually, one looks at back at these sort of moments and tends to become very embarassed, thinking "oh boy, was I stupid back then".

[Ack-Ack]

Im not talking about disagreement. Im talking about your attitude. In my IMO besides the designation number and armament layouts the difference between the Stuka Variants is almost non-existent. The same goes with all aircraft variants, almost no changes in airframe.

So we have 303. Machine Guns that do no damage and Laser Beam observer guns, but when an armament package is added to an aircraft with NO asthetic changes ITS NOT HISTORICAL.



Please show some sense

There is a difference in the airframe between the D-3 and the D-5.  For someone that claims to have knowledge of WW2 aircraft, I am suprised you didn't know that.

ack-ack

[Plawranc]

Yes I did know, But they were MINOR. But if you guys want to knitpick thats fine. Im not particular, its a stuka and it bombs stuff. If it looks like a stuka, flies like a stuka and has weapons that are a stuka's. ITS A STUKA.

Not a d-3 or d-5 or G-1 IT IS A STUKA.

[Bronk]

Yes I did know, But they were MINOR. But if you guys want to knitpick thats fine. Im not particular, its a stuka and it bombs stuff. If it looks like a stuka, flies like a stuka and has weapons that are a stuka's. ITS A STUKA.

Not a d-3 or d-5 or G-1 IT IS A STUKA.

Sonny boy just admit defeat. Because a 25-c is a far diff bird than a 25-h. Same applies to a stuka.

[gyrene81]

Sonny boy just admit defeat. Because a 25-c is a far diff bird than a 25-h. Same applies to a stuka.

Come on Bronk, that was like trying to compare the Ju-87 prototype to the Ju-87G-3. Not even a close comparison to what is being discussed here.

There is a difference in the airframe between the D-3 and the D-5.  For someone that claims to have knowledge of WW2 aircraft, I am suprised you didn't know that.

ack-ack

I thought we already discussed this or are we going to start using the "selective subject" argument. The only differences between the D-3 and D-5 were lengthened wings on the D-5, Jumo 211P or Jumo 211J-1 or Jumo 213 engine, increased armor in the floor window, and 1 hinge was added to the ailerons...the biggest changes had already been made between the B series and the D series. The structural changes in the airframes occurred between the B and D series, and we're not talking about taking the B series and turning it into a G-1.

[Ack-Ack]

The structural changes in the airframes occurred between the B and D series, and we're not talking about taking the B series and turning it into a G-1.

No, you're just talking about adding a weapons option that didn't exist for the D-3. 


ack-ack

[gyrene81]

No, you're just talking about adding a weapons option that didn't exist for the D-3. 


ack-ack

Forget the 20mm...I already admitted it was a "one off" field mod that wasn't well documented nor used in production...but if you're referring to the 37mm gunpods, that's a different story.

[Motherland]

Yes I did know, But they were MINOR. But if you guys want to knitpick thats fine. Im not particular, its a stuka and it bombs stuff. If it looks like a stuka, flies like a stuka and has weapons that are a stuka's. ITS A STUKA.

Not a d-3 or d-5 or G-1 IT IS A STUKA.

Let's take out the Spitfire MK V, VII, XIV and XVI. After all, it's a spit, it flies around and shoots stuff. The Spitfire MK I looks like, flies like, and has weapons found on a Spitfire; it's a Spitfire. no other attention needs to be paid to it.

[Bronk]

Let's take out the Spitfire MK V, VII, XIV and XVI. After all, it's a spit, it flies around and shoots stuff. The Spitfire MK I looks like, flies like, and has weapons found on a Spitfire; it's a Spitfire. no other attention needs to be paid to it.

Whoa when did the Mk VII sneak in.

[waystin2]

Whoa when did the Mk VII sneak in.

Hopefully soon!!!

[stephen]

37mm armed stuka would bring a bit of variety to the ground game I think..., heck im bored with IL-2's tracking, or otherwise disabling my tank.

I have a personal affinity for the plane because Hanz Ulrich Rudel is so associated with it, (and we all know he was the most succesful pilot in history)  It would be fun to compare oneself to such a historical pilot, and I believe there would be alot to gain in the senario's.

It seems silly to argue..., sure there where diffrent models of Ju-87, but I think our friend is elluding to the fact that since there is all ready a stuka on the books, adding another of the appropriate model would be simpler since there is a baseline established, i.e. BRING THE 37mm Ju TO THE GAME!!!

I vote yes   (without lingering to argue point and counter point)

[jay]

question didnt the stukas have a trapeze the lower the bomb so it could clear the prop?