Frame Survival Bonus

[Bino]

I'd like to ask the FSO CM Team to consider including a frame survival bonus in the scoring of all our events.

A frame survival bonus was part of the scoring in the recent Battle Of Britain FSO, "Adlertag."

Along with the "one life, one plane" aspect of FSO it puts a premium on returning to base, and adds yet one more bit of realism, IMHO.

[Wagger]

Agreed. Make it so CM. That's if you want to that is.

[Squire]

I could add them as sop to my setups. Its not hard to get the data. I can't speak for the other Admin CMs.

[Baumer]

Pilots who successfully land in the FSO's I design, have always scored points. I believe promoting survival is an important aspect of special events, and that makes them unique/different from other areas of the game.

As a matter of fact, in the November FSO I have added a point multiplier to certain aircraft if they are successfully RTB'd.   

[Nefarious]

Pilots who successfully land in the FSO's I design, have always scored points. I believe promoting survival is an important aspect of special events, and that makes them unique/different from other areas of the game.

As a matter of fact, in the November FSO I have added a point multiplier to certain aircraft if they are successfully RTB'd.   

What is the November FSO? 

[daddog]

http://ahevents.org/pacific-theatre/too-little-too-late-philippienes-december-1941.html

[Anaxogoras]

Pilots who successfully land in the FSO's I design, have always scored points.

Is that really true?  Sometimes there have been points awarded for landing, and sometimes not.

[ghostdancer]

In his designs I believe he factors them in.

In my designs this was the first time I gave a survival bonus.

[Chapel]

I really like the survival bonus...
Kinda reminds me of some of the great features that were included in the Select Squad Series.
Some of the rules in place really setup a great series where the battle could ebb and flow, and surviving meant that your top of the line planes could operate at maximum efficiency on the subsequent frames.

[Baumer]

Yes in every one of my FSO's pilots who successfully land always score points. I also figure the pilot point value on the number of pilots who actually fly in the frame vs having a predetermined value. I feel it is more accurate to have it reflect what actually happens in the frame and remove the uncertainty of a predetermined system. Also this allows for the A2A points to always  equal the A2G points. So the air battle is always equal to the ground targets.

This is an example of my scoring spreadsheet, I use the raw logs and go through each entry to make sure I have accurate counts. That's why it an takes a day or two to go through the 5000+ rows of data to make sure I don't miss a kill or landing.



Larger version that is easier to read.
http://332nd.org/dogs/baumer/CMscoresheet/CMscoresheet.jpg

[Nefarious]

I like the Frame Survival Bonus as well. 

Nice Charts Baumer.

[Anaxogoras]

Oh, Bravo to you then!   All other CM's take note if you don't assign points for landing already.

[Bino]

Thanks, gents! 

[Krusty]

There is a downside to survival bonuses. Often times the side with the upper hand pushes the fight so far as to follow a fleeing enemy for sectors simply to deprive them of bonus points on landing. It can (in some situations) simply reward the side with better planes, better numbers, or whatever, because they simply will be the last ones standing to land and get the bonus.

Overall I'm for them, but I think both sides of the coin must be considered in any setup, rather than say "always use 'em."

[boomerlu]

Overall I'm for them, but I think both sides of the coin must be considered in any setup, rather than say "always use 'em."

Asymmetric survival bonuses - more for less advanced planes, more for the disadvantaged side... etc. Simple idea.

Of course implementing it in a way that's fair is not so simple... but we have ENY as a rough guideline already.