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Offline Fishu

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Pyro: add armor to A8?
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2000, 12:09:00 PM »
 
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They seem to have same sources in HTC as well... if I am not completely mistaken that A-5 somehow rides faster than A-8 in AH.
Well, maybe your kind of genie can point out *why* A-8 should be faster? (greater number in version eh?)

You still haven't told me this, Funked, I'd like to remind you that I'd like to hear the answer.

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« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2000, 12:30:00 PM »
Good point Fishu.  

A-5 and A-8 have very similar aerodynamics and engine power at high altitudes.  So the maximum speed should be pretty close.

But at low altitudes (see the link I posted earlier) the A-8 can use the boost override system to generate more power, so it can go about 15 mph faster on the deck.

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« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2000, 03:42:00 PM »
The a5 is faster at low alt too?

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« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2000, 04:35:00 PM »
 
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Good point Fishu.    

A-5 and A-8 have very similar aerodynamics and engine power at high altitudes.  So the maximum speed should be pretty close.

But you forget that A-8 is bit heavier though..
More armour (I think tail was more armored for example) and some changes with the gun change from MG-FF to MG151/20, with more ammunition.
So that would need also tad more power from the engine and make plane less maneuverable.

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Pyro: add armor to A8?
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2000, 07:00:00 PM »
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The benefits of the A-8 over the A-5 (in AH and real life) are the extra guns and ammo, extra range (due to aux. fuel tank behind the pilot) and additional speed on the deck due to boost augmentation.

The climb difference between A-5 and A-8 should not be as big as it is, because HTC appear to have modeled the A-5 on a G-3 with no cowl guns or MG FF.

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Pyro: add armor to A8?
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2000, 07:13:00 PM »
HEhhhhmmmm at the risk of sounding inept...

How much does 2x7.92mm MGs, 2x20mm MGFF, and their ammo weight?

300 lbs? that being generous I guess ( no idea on ammo weights sorry).

That means nothing. No, really.  I think the performance (speed, acceleratio and climb) wont be very damaged by that extra weight. There should be a difference, for sure ,still I think that it wont be one to squeak and moan about Fw190A5 like the squeakes and moans we all hear daily.

The manouverability would suffer, of curse, but the maneouverability difference between 4x20mm and 2x20mm is ok isnt it?-

so...is SO serious problem? if it is true that the performance is taken as funked says, then it needs fix, of course...but it does THAT BIG difference?

I guess not.

(I am taking funked's affirmation as true, note that In no moment I say that A5 is overmodelled. True is, he knows way more than me about 190s so I give him credit).

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 09-02-2000).]

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« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2000, 08:33:00 PM »
If we come to overmodelling, then I have my doubts of P47 for example..