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Offline Saxman

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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #45 on: November 07, 2009, 12:31:28 AM »
As I do with any PTO setup, I'm gonna miss it when we're back in Europe again.  :P
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #46 on: November 07, 2009, 01:00:08 AM »
We did well in the first part of the Op, then stuck around too long and got horded. It must have been 3:1 :lol. Oh well, good fun.
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #47 on: November 07, 2009, 01:10:07 AM »
What's with all the PT nonsense on the logs?
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2009, 09:53:46 AM »
Quote from: TinmanX on November 07, 2009, 01:10:07 AM
What's with all the PT nonsense on the logs?
You didn't read that? It's in the setup information...pt boat fight against the cv convoys. It was to see how many would be interested in something like that as part of an FSO in the future.
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2009, 10:15:02 AM »
Last night was enjoyable and the Sick Puppies were happy to be back in FSO's. Im hoping to clear up my confusion about having to rearm. We flew B5N's from C73 to V68, bombed and returned to C73. I started seeing messages about rearming and by the time I found out we needed to, two had towered. One damaged his prop on take off back to the target, two got up and returned with gunners. Due to the length of time to return to V68, C73 was destroyed and there were no bases within a reasonable distance to land at. This resulted in the two being captured when told to land at the end of the frame. I saw in the orders that rearming is permissable at any base, but did I miss the part that said that our flight needed to rearm and return, after returning to the carrier?

Thanks to the Swamp Dragons for the escort. All of us got to the target and were able to bomb the Vbase.
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2009, 11:02:07 AM »
With all the concerns of P40's being outnumbered:

USAAF stats:
Pilots: 194 Kills: 188 Assists: 162
Objects Destroyed: 134 Deaths: 166 Landed: 104
Bailed: 12 Captured: 14 Crashed: 15
Ditched: 15 Disco'd: 14


Japanese stats:
Pilots: 290 Kills: 189 Assists: 122
Objects Destroyed: 120 Deaths: 139 Landed: 340
Bailed: 31 Captured: 33 Crashed: 39
Ditched: 15 Disco'd: 17


Axis had nearly 100 more pilots and managed 1 more kill than allied?     :lol

I bet most of these kills came from the PT war.
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2009, 11:15:05 AM »
Quote from: Dadsguns on November 07, 2009, 11:02:07 AM


Axis had nearly 100 more pilots and managed 1 more kill than allied?     :lol

I bet most of these kills came from the PT war.

Just shows the desparity of the plane sets, when WWI plane set gets here you could assign those to the axis and get ever better allied numbers :rofl
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2009, 11:22:10 AM »
 The B5N2 had no front guns remember. You could outnumber the allied with a million of those and still end up all dead.
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2009, 11:51:25 AM »
Quote from: DrDea on November 07, 2009, 11:22:10 AM
The B5N2 had no front guns remember. You could outnumber the allied with a million of those and still end up all dead.

Loading up with those is the like the center of a tootsie roll lollipop, cant wait to get at them for the easy kill.   :aok

Quote from: Boxboy on November 07, 2009, 11:15:05 AM
Just shows the desparity of the plane sets,,,,,,

Hugely understated.
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2009, 11:58:58 AM »
Quote from: boomerlu on November 07, 2009, 01:00:08 AM
We did well in the first part of the Op, then stuck around too long and got horded. It must have been 3:1 :lol. Oh well, good fun.

I was the lone p40E vers u 7-8 that were following me to ur death.  You shouldn't have chased me 1 full sector from ur target , hehehe.  After the 3 squads you guys had to our 1 and wiped us out, I said to my self, I gonna be bait and drag ur butts to you demise.  As you see, ur squad fell for the trap.

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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2009, 11:59:55 AM »
The B5N's had the second highest survival percentage of any aircraft on either side.

  • P-40B- 49%
  • B5N2- 41.79%
  • B-17G- 39.39%
  • P-40E- 31.03%
  • D3A1- 15.79%
  • A6M2- 12.63%

With the landing bonus it could make significant difference in the score.
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2009, 12:08:52 PM »
According to the Plane set Side Split it was supposed to be a Side Split of-45% Allies/55% Axis,,, which is more like a 60/40 split for Axis.


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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2009, 12:12:07 PM »
At the start of the frame, axis had 90+ pilots more then allied.
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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2009, 12:14:51 PM »
Quote from: AKDogg on November 07, 2009, 11:58:58 AM
I was the lone p40E vers u 7-8 that were following me to ur death.  You shouldn't have chased me 1 full sector from ur target , hehehe.  After the 3 squads you guys had to our 1 and wiped us out, I said to my self, I gonna be bait and drag ur butts to you demise.  As you see, ur squad fell for the trap.

 :salute :salute :banana:

Actually we were not in pursuit of you, per se.  We made a tactical decision ( a bad one) to loiter the whole frame rather than RTB, and head north toward 117.  

Our 3 squads consisted of JG11 in (14) zero's.  VF-6 only had (4) zero's I believe, and the 15th were in B5N's.

Nice work at the end.  My gawd it was a sea of red.  A good day to die for the Emperor.

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Re: November FSO- Too Little, Too Late- Philippienes December 1941
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2009, 01:06:57 PM »
AKDogg! Hey! Say hi to Dustoff for me will ya? :D Greed kills whether you're flying a Zero or a P40. :devil
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