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Offline juice

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P47M vs F4U-1A
« on: October 22, 2009, 03:36:19 PM »
i'm flying the P47M & F4U-1A a lot while trying to pick a favorite between them. i'm hoping that you guru's out there can help with the comparison since they are both pure air-to-air fighters, thanks.

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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 03:42:22 PM »
I would say turn fight and low speed ability goes to the 1A hands down, much superior fighter in that aspect.
I would say that the 47M is a better high speed turner and at altitude probably one of if not the best plane in the game. Guns go to the 47M hands down, 8X50s, come on? lol
Unfortunetly though, since most of the time you will not be fighting 30K, 1A has the advantage in the MA's, will be a better choice for the fights, but I'm not saying that you shouldn't fly the 47M. 47M is a very good picker, and can get most planes back to the deck.

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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2009, 03:55:01 PM »
I agree 110%   :aok
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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 04:00:38 PM »
It really depends on the opponent and the situation, but the F4U is by far more flexible. She's good as Bosco says at lower speeds, but too many people jump right to "Magic Flaps" and forget that she is a VERY good fighter at high speeds as well.

I've played around with the M against squaddies, (light gas and 6x.50cal package) and she still feels heavier than the Hog at all speeds. Maneuvers I could execute with one hand behind my back in the F4U the M just didn't quite want to get around for. The M rolls well, (still not as good as the Hog) but she has nothing approaching the rudder authority of the F4U. Any sort of rolling fight the F4U should win, especially with effective use of rudder (IMO, rudder is almost more important to the F4U than flaps).
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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 04:01:56 PM »
I am no guru, but I know the f4u-1a can turn twice as hard on full flaps as the P47M.  And it also turn better with both of them applying no flaps. The f4u will outclimb the P47 up till about 20-25k, then the f4u will flatten its climb rate while the P47 will continue on its same rate a good while longer.

Other than that the acceleration is about the same, P47 slightly faster also top speed of the 47 is higher.
And the P47 have better guns.

I fly mainly f4u's, mostly because of their huge flaps, and because I have fallen in love with the plane. Its really fun to fly once u get to know it really well, and it can handle both high speed and almost down to no speed at all. I love to get it down to almost hovering speed at full flaps, and still u can twist and turn it around quite alot in a slow and low fight.  :aok
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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 04:06:19 PM »
I am no guru, but I know the f4u-1a can turn twice as hard on full flaps as the P47M? (P47N I believe you mean?!) And it also turn better with both of them applying no flaps. The f4u will outclimb the P47 up till about 20-25k, then the f4u will flatten its climb rate while the P47 will continue on its same rate a good while longer.

Other than that the acceleration is about the same, P47 slightly faster also top speed of the 47 is higher.
And the P47 have better guns.

I fly mainly f4u's, mostly because of their huge flaps, and because I have fallen in love with the plane. Its really fun to fly once u get to know it really well, and it can handle both high speed and almost down to no speed at all. I love to get it down to almost hovering speed at full flaps, and still u can twist and turn it around quite alot in a slow and low fight.  :aok

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The P-47M is faster at all altitudes than the F4U-1A. The F4U-4 is more or less equal in speed and rate of climb up until very high altitudes.
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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2009, 04:07:53 PM »
Agree Saxman, like I said the M has a disadvanatge at low speeds, does not climb at all.

The best quote I have put together about the Hog at high speeds with alt and E is, "It's Juggernaught, nothing can beat it when it has the alt. and E."
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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2009, 04:16:53 PM »
I think a lot of people confuse the M with having more power means more manueverability. With all due respect, its a jug, just like all the other jugs. Once its slow, its pretty much a sitting duck. The M jug is really no more superior than any other aircraft except above 15-20k. Ive seen so many people flying the M-jug low and slow, expecting it to climb like a 109, and turn like a Spit16, and accelerate like a P38. The end result is them getting shot down.
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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2009, 04:24:56 PM »
the M has more escapability but the 1a has a bigger bag of tricks.  1v1 the 1a is better, IMHO.
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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2009, 04:25:59 PM »
SAJ,

The P-47M is faster at all altitudes than the F4U-1A. The F4U-4 is more or less equal in speed and rate of climb up until very high altitudes.

Yes, I guess you are right. I have not flown any of the jug planes much myself, I have been flying more or less hogs since I started this game. Atleast after I was done with my learning period with the spits anyway..  :lol
And the F4u-4 is my absolute favourite of the hogs!  :rock
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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2009, 12:29:52 AM »
I find the 1A a lot of fun. As pointed out above, it's good across the range of speeds so you're not restricted to one type of fighting.  The M is a monster IMO and I'm having a real tough time fighting them but I still prefer the 1A. 

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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2009, 01:14:39 AM »
Agree Saxman, like I said the M has a disadvanatge at low speeds, does not climb at all.

The best quote I have put together about the Hog at high speeds with alt and E is, "It's Juggernaught, nothing can beat it when it has the alt. and E."


Couldnt say it any better myself... nice.   :banana:

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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2009, 08:32:54 AM »
Agree Saxman, like I said the M has a disadvanatge at low speeds, does not climb at all.
Climb to 10k from dead stop on runway, in minutes, seconds and hundredths of seconds. 25% fuel, 6 guns with 267 rounds for P-47s.
P-51D: 3:14.47
P-47D-40: 3:00.88
P-47M: 2:50.56
F4U-4: 2:48.44
Nearly a dead heat between the F4U-4 and P-47M.

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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2009, 08:39:01 AM »
Thought he said f4u1a? :D

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Re: P47M vs F4U-1A
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2009, 08:41:31 AM »
I think too many of you are too bound by "statistics" and it will never make sense to me.    Just play the damn game.  
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