190/P-38 1 ping engine gone HAS to be FIXED

[lazs1]

the glide ratio needs to be fixed on the 190 series.   I have put several half second bursts into them from ded six and lit em up like an Xmas tree only to have them glide (at full speed) a full sector to safety.  
lazs

[Urchin]

Wonder what I'm doing wrong then... my 190 glides like a brick.

[Kirin]

Q: When does a 190 glide like a sailplane?

A: Only when it's engine suffers the 1-ping death!


With engine running or shut down manually the 190 is a flying brick - but if you get the 1-ping death (and you'll get that one a lot!) you'll glide better than any sailplane in in RL. It's true lazs - that's how I got back to base quite some times after fatal engine damage!! The only problem is to slow down on final approach...    wish we would get braking chutes!!!

This 'feature' is present in the other planes as well (... I think - not too much experience in other planes).

[Tac]

Thnx Pyro. What about the plane's structure? entire wings and tails lost in seemingly low amount of rnds (38 entire wing falls out with 3 or 4 .50 cal shots, b17 wings blown off with 9 or 10 .50 cals (and not on same spot). BohdiArm showed me a wing of a B-17 they are rebuilding.. good lord, that thing was built to EAT damage! I doubt 3 or 4 cannon rounds wouldve even done any serious damage to it (if it didnt hit fuel tanks that is).

Anyway, just curious if the entire damage model (not just the engines on these planes) was beeing looked on. A Y/N answer will suffice  

[airspro]

Kirin: P51D also does that , shot out motor , it's damn hard to land on the runway as it don't want to slow down . I think the ground effect has something to do with it also ? Seems the last little bit it doesn't want to come down .

But I'll take a ditch than a bail .

Hang u funny , yep have lost my tail before , mostly from ack . I have been leaving that stuff alone for awhile and my tails fine now  

[MANDOBLE]

Add Ta152 to the list of planes with 1 ping = engine out.
While this plane can really glide, you'll rarely bring it back to a friendly base, and even a ditch just near your runaway means the lost of 40 perks.

[StSanta]

Pyro: you rule  

Excellent thread guys  .

Tozza, I seem to recall being downed by you before. Very annoying  .

Re: the 1 ping from the N1K: how do I know it was just one ping? Well, 3 pings take my stabs off cleanly. 5 Pings separate the tail section from the rest of the plane (N1K 20mm).

When I survive a 20mm hit from an N1K, I count myself lucky  

[lazs1]

Now i see kirin... still.... can't figure out how some of em change direction at least once and then can still do the LW "floppy fish" all the way home.   I know the engine is ded cause I have put at least 100 rounds into em from ded six.
lazs

[Tac]

To add to that st.Santa, HOW many bullets can possibly hit you on a hi speed hi angle snapshot? 1? 2? The n1k's guns refire rate aint that great either. Again, this points to something in the frail damage model.  

[Hajo]

I also would like to voice my support.  The D9 model suffers the same consequences from the 6 shot.  D9 had armour around the radiator to protect it, and losing an engine to a 6 shot in the P-38 as well as any model of the 190 seems to be a regular occurance.

[Tac]

well, 6 shot hitting the engines of 38 is ok, the engines are there without any structure that shields it like the 190 has the entire fuselage before the engine.

They will fix it, they said they were working on that.

Its the REST of the damage model that I still dont know if it will be looked upon.

[SKurj]

Well guess no 1.08 on tuesday.

Pyro stated they WILL fix it for 1.08, not that it HAS been fixed for 1.08 +(

SKurj

[Wilbus]

Just saw Answer from Pyro so decided to change my post  

[ 09-03-2001: Message edited by: Wilbus ]