Messed up by N1H1 vaccine?

[Angus]

hs anyone thought about just why this seems to kill younger "healthy" people?

 could it be, because younger people tend to take a pill for anything, whereas us old farts just ride it out when we don't feel good?

 i mean, c;mon.....listen to commercials. 1/2 of em are for some kind of drug. heartburn is a disease now, they have medications out the wazoo for allergies(mostly with side effects worse than the allergy), they have drugs to suppress womens periods, drugs for guys that can't get it up, drugs for just about ANYTHING.

 i would have to imagine it's mostly younge peeps taking these things. and (in my opinion) anything you take will cause SOME sort of d side effect. if it's for allergies, a cold, a bad cold, sore back, whatever.....it's going to lower your body's resistance to infections.

Not many bright heads on this thread I'm afraid.
The Flu of 1918 was very similar, killing mostly people between 20 and 40 in good health. Way before either antibiotics or the P-Pill, allergy medicine etc etc.
It came in 2 waves, the second one being the mutilated virus, and very much more deadly.
The more people in the pool, the sooner happens the mutilation. Yet, the lucky ones are the ones infected in the first round, since they get just a "flu", but are immune to the "uberflu".
Casualties in 1918: 50-100 MILLION people. In USA, at least 500.000 people.
May you enjoy your flu.

[CAP1]

Not many bright heads on this thread I'm afraid.
The Flu of 1918 was very similar, killing mostly people between 20 and 40 in good health. Way before either antibiotics or the P-Pill, allergy medicine etc etc.
It came in 2 waves, the second one being the mutilated virus, and very much more deadly.
The more people in the pool, the sooner happens the mutilation. Yet, the lucky ones are the ones infected in the first round, since they get just a "flu", but are immune to the "uberflu".
Casualties in 1918: 50-100 MILLION people. In USA, at least 500.000 people.
May you enjoy your flu.

well...hopefully i don't get it.........but then i've been one of those lucky enough to very rarely ever get sick..........

[allaire]

Well cap don't leave the country to go to some of the more interesting places around the world.  You have to take all kinds of crap and get all kinds of vaccinations for stuff.  Better not get cut on anything rusty.  Course some people say lockjaw is fun.  And GERD can cause severe damage to the esophagus.  It can get as bad as a bleeding ulcer in your stomach. 

[CAP1]

Well cap don't leave the country to go to some of the more interesting places around the world.  You have to take all kinds of crap and get all kinds of vaccinations for stuff.  Better not get cut on anything rusty.  Course some people say lockjaw is fun.  And GERD can cause severe damage to the esophagus.  It can get as bad as a bleeding ulcer in your stomach. 

you mentioned getting cut on something rusty.

funny thing about that.

when i was younger, i used to get infections in cuts and scrapes ALL the time. always had to constantly pay attention to them, clean em with peroxide, etc.

 ever since i've started fixing cars for a living(over 25 years ago.....god that makes me feel old).....i've NEVER had an infection in a single cut, or scrape. and face it. when you're turning wrenches, you're lucky to go a full month without some sort of injury.
 this includes one that i cut my forearm open while working on a cobra kit.....took four stitches in the er.....blood was pouring out like someone turned on a spigot(scared the poop out of me as i'd never seen blood come out that fast before)
 talking to other mechanics and techs, they say the same thing. weird, eh?

[MrRiplEy[H]]

That is a load of populistic and hysterical BS.

http://www.rokotusinfo.fi/

more populistic and hysterical BS. Statistics are populistic and hysterical too considering that many vaccinations expose you to a higher risk than what they're supposed to cure.

[Angus]

So,,,,,remembering that I got ill from the Pox vaccination, would that mean that getting the pox was better? 

[Flipperk]

my nephews were diagnosed with N1H1, they are 2,3, and 12 years old. The 2 year old developed pneumonia (sp?) but they all were fine after a week and were bak in school 2 weeks afterwards.

I hung out with them when they first developed the symptoms and I believe I caught the swine flu as well. After 2 days I had a scratchy throat, slight fever, and congestion. 3 Days later all the symptoms went away and never had a problem since then.

At the time I was 18 (this was about 2 months ago) and I still am not in any hurry to get a vaccination. I only had the flu once in my life back when I was 15 and never had a shot for it.

AFter being exposed to N1H1 and being ok, I think it would be redundant to even get a shot now.

[OOZ662]

Considering I don't have many friends compared to the average teenager (Yeah, yeah, I know. But I really do prefer a few close friends to having literally hundreds that I barely talk to) and five or six of them have been diagnosed with H1N1, it is a threat at at least some level. That said, they were all immediately chained to their beds, drowned in OJ, and eventually became well again or are on the way there.

Erika shipped off to Washington State University, where there's been an apparent massive outbreak. The University of Washington (Go Huskies ) saw that and (since they start later) began distributing "flu packs" to students, full of all the basic immune-boosting stuff like vitamins and juice packets, and it showed them by example exactly what they needed to do to stay healthy.
From what I've heard, it's worked. WSU is still dealing with the outbreak and I haven't heard anything out of UW yet.

[Reschke]

Don't get flu vaccine and never will. Let the chips fall as they may.

[capera]

Not many bright heads on this thread I'm afraid.

So....if we do not agree with your stand point, we are not intelligent?

Actually..... what I am witnessing in this thread is the complete opposite. People have more information at their disposal, and are making decisions based on this information. Back in the mid 70's we all know we only had the local library and what the media told us.......today we have the internet and other reliable sources at our disposal.

You have your opinion......I have mine. I will not insult your intelligence seeing you support this vaccine....and I expect the same in return. Anything less, is just juvenile.

 

[CAP1]

So....if we do not agree with your stand point, we are not intelligent?

Actually..... what I am witnessing in this thread is the complete opposite. People have more information at their disposal, and are making decisions based on this information. Back in the mid 70's we all know we only had the local library and what the media told us.......today we have the internet and other reliable sources at our disposal.

You have your opinion......I have mine. I will not insult your intelligence seeing you support this vaccine....and I expect the same in return. Anything less, is just juvenile.

 

that's most probably due to the fact that he's one of the ones "brainwashed" into thinking that what the govt says is good is good.
 hence...the govt says we should get these vaccinations, so he(and others) think we should all drop what we;re doing, and go get them.

 as i've said earlier, i can't recall the last vaccination i had....and don't plan on any anytime soon.

 as for traveling outside the us? meh.......it's irrelevent to me, as there's really no place that piques my interest enough to want to go outside this great country. 

[Motherland]

today we have the internet and other reliable sources at our disposal.

The words 'internet' and 'reliable' should not be mentioned in the same sentence

[Flipperk]

The words 'internet' and 'reliable' should not be mentioned in the same sentence

AHII is a reliable sim on the internet  

[Rino]

     Being on dialysis means I get both reg flu and swine flu vaccines.  While I have
been fortunate in the past not to have had either, can't afford to take chances now.

     The nice thing is that I get both shots at the center, which means no extra effort
on my part 

[allaire]

I was referring to the tetanus shot they give you if your last one wasn't within the last 5 years of the injury.  As far as the Pox vaccine is concerned, I wonder if you can pay a doctor to get it for you?