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Offline RufusLeaking

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Real P-40B?
« on: October 31, 2009, 10:37:06 AM »
Try flying any snapshot, FSO, event, scenario, anything other than the MA, where you need a betty, a beaufort, a wellington, a real P-40B, a Ki43, a P-2, or any number of things the game currently lacks.
Pardon my quoting this from another thread.  It would have been off topic and out of place after the three pages of point-counterpoint.

Anyway, Krusty appears to imply that there is something amiss in the P-40B modeling. 

Is it possible for Krusty, or anyone else in the know to elaborate on this?

And for the record, yes to developing all of the other planes mentioned.
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2009, 11:16:11 AM »
Krusty is always right.  Let's leave it at that.
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2009, 11:20:57 AM »
P-2? Hmmmmm, is that a Pe-2 or a PO-2? Makes a world of difference (although both would be fun).

All the others listed - oh yes, please.  :aok

Plus the Fairey Swordfish. I'm an old Royal Navy Brat and I'd be very happy to fly an accurately-modelled Stringbag, even if it'd be the slowest aircraft in the planeset and probably the easiest 'kill'.

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Re: the P-40B, I don't think there's much amiss in its modelling, its flight characteristics seem to match very well what I've read about the real thing.

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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2009, 12:39:38 PM »
Krusty is always right.  Let's leave it at that.
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2009, 12:51:46 PM »
The P-40B is modeled as a P-40C... Thus, it is too heavy and too slow to perform like a B model should.  Meanwhile, our P-40E has WEP, which it did not actually have. Performance is essentially that of the P-40K.

P-40Cs has provision for an external drop tank and more armor than the B model. Top speed for the P-40C was 342 mph @16k, whereas the P-40B should manage 351 mph @ 16k.

P-40 issues are well known and well defined and I'm quite sure that they will be addressed when they receive their graphics update.

Krusty is probably correct.


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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2009, 12:54:31 PM »
I'm going to quote "Krusty is probably correct" from WideWing in threads all the time now D..
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2009, 01:20:43 PM »
I dont know about WEP settings on the later models (what was used specifically, what was allowed, etc) but the top speeds of the E, F, K, L, and M are all almost identical.

So whether or not our E had the right WEP settings, it still hits about the proper top speed.

Maybe Widewing is saying it should hit that without any WEP at all (like the Yak?)

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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2009, 02:43:58 PM »
Pardon my quoting this from another thread.  It would have been off topic and out of place after the three pages of point-counterpoint.

Anyway, Krusty appears to imply that there is something amiss in the P-40B modeling. 

Is it possible for Krusty, or anyone else in the know to elaborate on this?

And for the record, yes to developing all of the other planes mentioned.

I'm still waiting for what he implies is wrong about our 1A.
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2009, 03:29:43 PM »
I'm still waiting for what he implies is wrong about our 1A.

i'm actually waiting for the rest of the point.

 generally when there's a "XXX is modeled wrong" thread, it happens to be that XXX is undermodeled, and was being flown by the person claiming it to be modeled wrongly....and whatever beat that person in the undermodeled aircraft is in fact overmodeled.
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2009, 04:04:25 PM »
i'm actually waiting for the rest of the point.

 generally when there's a "XXX is modeled wrong" thread, it happens to be that XXX is undermodeled, and was being flown by the person claiming it to be modeled wrongly....and whatever beat that person in the undermodeled aircraft is in fact overmodeled.

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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2009, 04:23:40 PM »
i'm actually waiting for the rest of the point.

 generally when there's a "XXX is modeled wrong" thread, it happens to be that XXX is undermodeled, and was being flown by the person claiming it to be modeled wrongly....and whatever beat that person in the undermodeled aircraft is in fact overmodeled.

In the case of the 1A, in the P-47M thread Krusty said it was tossed in "as a gift to the players" and as a result the flight model wasn't what it SHOULD be, without actually saying what was wrong (overmodeled? Undermodeled? What's wrong with it?).
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2009, 05:01:28 PM »
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2009, 05:10:30 PM »
100 Krustys...

Fixed my post. Forgive me for dropping a number.  :P
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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2009, 05:18:35 PM »
I'm hoping for a P-40N to be introduced when the Warhawk gets its graphics update.    Wouldn't mind seeing a Merlin-powered F for North African scenarios, and the very ungainly looking K.

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Re: Real P-40B?
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2009, 05:22:40 PM »
me tinks cap is a bbs junkie :joystick:

it's kinda how i get my ah "fix" when i can't get the time to log in and fly
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