Correct nomenclature

[Stoney]

For instance, Lieutenant Commander is correctly abreviated LCDR but the AP insists on Lt Cmdr.

The Medal of Honor is one that chaps me.  Folks insist on calling it the "Congressional" Medal of Honor, when in fact, the award is simply the Medal of Honor.

[Ack-Ack]

You're never gonna learn, ack ack! 

I'm sorry but I just couldn't resist such an easy target, sometimes the smart bellybutton in me over rides the more sensible parts of my brain. 


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[Bruv119]

Is the HMS Warrior from 1860 an iron clad?  Must have been nice to walk the wooden decks of the Warrior.


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it is an ironclad.  Still docked in Portsmouth Harbour.   HMS Victory is around the corner.

[Mace2004]

So the HMS Warrior (the iron clad) could be considered the first 'dreadnought'?  Is the Warrior still sea worthy, like our Old Ironsides?

Warrior isn't literally an iron clad although it's generally classed as one.  Iron clad means iron armor over a wooden hull but Warrior is all iron so it technically isn't "clad" in iron, it IS iron.  Other than being build of iron, Warrior is a fairly conventional, if very large, late 19th Century design based on sail and steam propulsion with predominently muzzle loading guns arranged in gunports.  Dreadnought was a 20th Century design and the first battleship with nothing but big guns in turrets on it and steam turbine engines.  It had none of the vestigial sails of the sail/steam era.

It's amazing that there are so few historical ships remaining considering all the importance placed on them.  Visiting these old ships are a fabulous experience and I look forward to seeing some of the UK's one day.  I'm particularly sad that we failed to preserve the most important warship in US naval history and that's Enterprise.

Here, here, to Stoney's comment on the MoH.  It can be awarded by Congress but the correct name is simply MoH.

[Simba]

"So the HMS Warrior (the iron clad) could be considered the first 'dreadnought'?"

Ack-Ack, you're being a tease. Watch it, I'm an ol' Turk'ead and well-versed in the art of the wind-up.

Strictly speaking, an ironclad is any vessel clad in iron; in the naval world the term is applied to an armoured ship. Warrior was originally an iron ship, clad in iron armour backed by teak, the total weight of armour including the teak backing weighing 1,354 tons. As restored, she's afloat and moored alongside a purpose-built jetty in Portsmouth Harbour. A full-sized replica Penn trunk engine is installed and the boiler room is restored but the boiler fronts themselves are facades only, rather like an old Western town.

H.M.S. Dreadnought was the world's first 'all-big guns' fast battleship. She was built in Portsmouth Dockyard and turned the naval world on its head by rendering all other battleships instantly obsolete when she was launched in 1906.

I'll be happy to show you around the Historic Portsmouth Dockyard any time you're over here, folks. Take a trip on the ferry across the harbour to my birthplace Gosport and visit the Submarine Museum while you're at it; H.M.S. Alliance is looking a little weathered these days but she's the last conventional boat we've got and well worth a look-over, as is the rest of the exhibition (which includes the first RN submarine, the U.S.-designed Holland I).

Re: CV-6 Enterprise, there was never a ship that served her country better but at least scrapping her freed her name for application to a new nuclear-powered flat-top. She deserved a better fate, perhaps, but nothing lasts for ever, not even the mountains . . .

 

[Simba]

As promised earlier in this thread, I've now got a scan of one of my favourite photos: 'Dad and the Bomb', taken using a Kodak Brownie camera. If somebody would be good enough to tell me how to insert images in here, I'll put it on.
 

[MiloMorai]

You need a host. Google image hosting for a site to use. When you have downloaded the image to the site, copy/paste the url for the image to your post using the 'image icon'.

[MiloMorai]

You need a host. Google image hosting for a site to use. When you have downloaded the image to the site, copy/paste the url for the image to your post using the 'image icon'.

[Ack-Ack]

As promised earlier in this thread, I've now got a scan of one of my favourite photos: 'Dad and the Bomb', taken using a Kodak Brownie camera. If somebody would be good enough to tell me how to insert images in here, I'll put it on.
 

Use a free host like photobucket and upload the pictures.  Then all you do is copy the link and past them within the tags in your post.  Picture is now visible to all who read the thread.


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[Simba]

Thanks, I'll do that.

 

[Hornet33]

The Canadian Navy in action...
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Pfffft, using a bolt action rifle and an ore. The US Coast Guard is much better. .50BMG and a Minn-Kota trolling motor baby!!!!

[Simba]

Before anyone else hijacks this thread, I'd better put up those pics I promised. Here goes . . .

1. The last Avenger to serve aboard a Royal Navy carrier goes into the drink, May 1957.




2. Aloha to the last Avenger.




3. Dr. Strangelove, or How CERA Frank Evans Stopped Worrying And Learnt To Love The Bomb. The UK's first H-bomb's mushroom cloud, seen from the deck of H.M.S. Warrior, 15th May 1957.



Dad didn't make old bones. He died aged 34 years on 17th May 1965, of a massive heart attack caused by 'major arterial deficiency', the Ministry of Defence's euphemism for one of the long-term effects of radiation poisoning. But he 'had the time of my life on that voyage' (visited Pitcairn Island, sailed through the Panama Canal, flew over and photographed the remains of Graf Spee at Montevedeo) and, being 'old Navy', had a favourite saying whenever somebody moaned about rough treatment.

If you can't take a joke, you shouldn't have joined.

Too right.