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Offline rough_wood

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Custom Attitude Indicator
« on: November 01, 2009, 03:00:51 PM »
How would we go about making one? Once you are at a certain nose up attitude all you see is a black circle giving no situational awareness.

Looking for something like:



If it isn't available I'd like to know how to make one with Paint or something similar.

Since we can make gunsights hopefully we can do this as well.

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2009, 03:47:50 PM »
nvm

edit: I was just confused when looking at my signature  :D

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But I think, the way as it is displayed now is just a matter of adjustment. After a few sorties, you will know your attitude. Even if it is "nose up"... :)


just my 0,02 €

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2009, 04:13:17 PM »
All gauges are hard wired in. There is no way to adjust, or customize them. Some planes and GVs do have these already.

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2009, 05:04:34 PM »
I made one that works in Offline, but it won't let me use it in MA. Looks like I need to get it approved since the only way I could find to do it was make a new skin just to change the indicator.

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2009, 05:16:50 PM »
That's a dual cue flight director seen in overlay on a modern attitude indicator.

You didn't find them in WWII airplanes during wartime.

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2009, 05:33:13 PM »
I know, I was coming more from the standpoint of removing the sphere in the dial, and custom painting it.

No ILS, just angle increments etc.

I submitted it to support

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2009, 07:17:35 PM »
I made one that works in Offline, but it won't let me use it in MA. Looks like I need to get it approved since the only way I could find to do it was make a new skin just to change the indicator.

can you post the file, I would really like to see it (even offline :()
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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2009, 09:37:30 PM »
If you follow the steps in

http://www2.hitechcreations.com/frindex.html

all you gotta do is alter the HORZ bitmap to whatever you want.

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2009, 11:35:30 PM »
I made one that works in Offline, but it won't let me use it in MA. Looks like I need to get it approved since the only way I could find to do it was make a new skin just to change the indicator.

AFAIK, HTC will not accept modified gauges. I think someone tried to even include a modified skin of just the interior cockpit bulkheads and the panel excluding the gauges (might have been something Krusty did on the P-40s) and that was rejected as well.
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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2009, 01:05:35 AM »
That stinks I wonder what the rational would be for a denial. I understand changing the functions of it, I just want to change the paint on the spherical doodad, something that surely would have been easy to do back then and quite possibly was done.

I see WW2 Attitude Indicators with angle increments, so it would be historically accurate to have them.

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2009, 02:28:25 AM »
It's too complicated to let everybody have a different indicator since a skin affects EVERYBODY (needs to be downloaded by everybody and rendered). Until they segregate the cockpit dials from the skin, such modificaiton will continue to be a problem. As it is now, something like the gunsight only affects YOUR viewpoint. Having a custom skin show up in-game could give a competitive advantage (if for example you perfectly camouflaged it) not to mention it's an ahistorical eyesore to everybody else. Custom gunsights on the other hand offer a negligible advantage and only YOU see the ahistorical-ness of it, nobody else.

What you want is a completely new system that allows custom dials which is completely separate from the skins system, and as such would not require submission for acceptance/rejection. Seems reasonable enough to me. :aok
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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 08:27:03 AM »
correct me if wrong, but wouldnt a pilot cage the attiutde gyro anyway before any kind of aerobatics?
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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2009, 08:38:29 AM »
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What you want is a completely new system that allows custom dials which is completely separate from the skins system, and as such would not require submission for acceptance/rejection. Seems reasonable enough to me. Thumbs UP!

How do you control making holes in the dash to see threw?

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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2009, 09:03:18 AM »
That stinks I wonder what the rational would be for a denial. I understand changing the functions of it, I just want to change the paint on the spherical doodad, something that surely would have been easy to do back then and quite possibly was done.

I see WW2 Attitude Indicators with angle increments, so it would be historically accurate to have them.

All of the WWII era Artificial Horizons I've seen (and quite a few up into the 70s even) were just a black background with a white horizon line, white airplane and a little white tick mark to show bank angle.  The only way to tell you were upside down was the tick mark being on the bottom of the dial.  (Well, that and the ashtray contents floating around the cockpit)
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Re: Custom Attitude Indicator
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2009, 05:22:25 PM »
Hitech,

I am not an expert at all on this, but maybe:

Disable transparency or something on the dials, and require them to be present

Place a black plate behind the dash with holes in it

I realise this may be a bunch of work so it may not be worth it, but I'd really like to have a reference angle for roping in a P38 and divebombing. Maybe it would be easiest to just change the HORZ image to something similar to:



My main issue was more just having angle reference than being able to make any HORZ I want, though I admit it's what I would prefer. Hopefully it's an easy fix and time grows on trees over there.

I realise they may have not existed back then, but my viewpoint is neither did certain gunsights we make up necessarily. It was within their technological ability and comes down to a matter of preferance.

Colmbo,

I have found a few that wrent just plane, though yes the majority Ive seen were as you describe.