Author Topic: La7, maia Lavochka  (Read 631 times)

Offline leonid

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« on: March 16, 2001, 06:53:00 AM »
I finally had a dream come true.  A P-51D gave chase as I was leaving the combat zone, on the deck with a fuel leak.  The pony was closing fast, having dove in from a higher altitude.  At around 500 yards the pony opened up on me, scoring sporadic hits, and I evaded with initial jinks, causing the pony to overshoot, then cut power to aid in scissors.  Such was the power loading on the La7, that I was able to commit a rolling type of scissors, and defeat the ponys angles. When I got position on the pony, the driver flipped over into a little dive in an attempt to build speed for a getaway.  In a La5FN this would've worked, but in the La7 it was a dooming move.  I gained on the pony again, then started taking snapshots as the pony evaded.  Realizing there were only 8 cannon shells left, I bided my time until the pony's canopy filled my gunsight, then it was a little squirt, and the pony was done  

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2001, 06:57:00 AM »
Muahaha!
The new planes are fun.  

Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2001, 08:51:00 AM »
I personally love the La7 and I think if flown correctly its a very potent enemy. However I don't think its as "uber" as some would have us believe *cough* Luftwobbles *cough*   and it takes a good pilot to get the most out of the plane.

Leonid, have you noticed how nose heavy the La7 is, in comparison to the La5FN ?

Even with the 3 cannons version of the La7, the nose "weight distribution" shouldn't change very much (if at all), but I find I have to apply quite a bit more back pressure on the stick with the La7, and it seems to have less elevator authority.

The 2 cannon version should feel the exact same, or slightly better, but I haven't tested it to see yet.

It just seems that the La7 doesn't feel as light on the controls as the La5.  I would compare it in feel to the difference between the P-51B and the P-51D, but that effect shouldn't be there on the La7 since the weight changes were minimal at best.

Any ideas, or have I caught a bad case of "its a anti XXX conspiracy" from the Luftwobbles while trying out one of their Dora's?  

PS: Damn those leather flight suits required in the Dora are itchy!!  

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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2001, 09:33:00 AM »
Fastest (free) plane below 5k. Runstangs can't, anymore.  

Btw; how fast would the Yak-3(VK 107) be at sea level?

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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2001, 09:48:00 AM »
Verm, I realize that folks 'lobby' for their special interest planes, but from a neutral point of view, I believe the LA7 is much more of a threat than the C-Hog.

I'd like to see the following a low perk point cost plane:

FW190-Dora
LA7
C-Hog

Offline Yeager

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2001, 09:58:00 AM »
I agree rip, most everything should have some sort of cost associated with it.

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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2001, 10:18:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Verm, I realize that folks 'lobby' for their special interest planes, but from a neutral point of view, I believe the LA7 is much more of a threat than the C-Hog.

I'd like to see the following a low perk point cost plane:

FW190-Dora
LA7
C-Hog

Good thing about La-7 compared to chog.. it doesnt have those laser cannons.
Though, I managed to rip Ta152's vertical stabilizer by one hit in H2H.

Offline Dmitry

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2001, 10:26:00 AM »
ohhh I waited and I waited and I was worried and and and....
Finally I got my La7... I was afraid of its status as perk plane, as of performance would be porked and a lot of other things. But ohhh my god what a beautifully plane this is... Ohh thank you HTC so much for giving this plane to us. Make it perk or not - I dont care as long as I can fly it I will spend all my points into it. I always believed that if there are better planes over La7 - that would be La-9 and La-11    
Give a hell to all who runs     so far pony driver can only dream on getting away, so as Dora - hehe    

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Offline J_A_B

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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2001, 10:42:00 AM »
The pony driver's solution to the LA7 is the P-51B      

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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2001, 11:11:00 AM »
 
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Good thing about La-7 compared to chog.. it doesnt have those laser cannons.
Though, I managed to rip Ta152's vertical stabilizer by one hit in H2H.

Funny, we flew this plane as a squadron the other night, and were finding that the cannons were as lethal, if not more lethal, than the C-hog...but, then again, we got in closer (D200-D300) for shots with the LA7, rather than D200-D600 for the C-Hog.  I guess its a matter of perception.


Offline StSanta

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« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2001, 11:22:00 AM »
I wouldn't mind seeing the P51's, the G10, the 190D9, the LA-7 and possibly some other planes perked.

Am just looking for an excuse to get back into my A5 and do some damage to my K/D  

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Offline Vermillion

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« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2001, 12:41:00 PM »
LOL! Now how could a Pony driver like you Ripsnort be called "nuetral" on the issue of planes like the Dora and the La7  

All of a sudden the Pony can't run away at will like it use too. Of course you would like to see it perked  

Please enlighten me as too why the La7 should be perked with facts, figures, and data.

If you truely want to be "nuetral" and you think the La7 or Dora should be perked, you of course wouldn't mind the P-51D, P38L, P47D30 (probably the D25 as well, but we don't have a B/C model), Yak-9U, N1K2, F4U-1D, and the F4U-1C all "minor" perked as well.  They all fit the same respective positions for their appropriate countries.

And fair is fair  

But lets not digress from the threads subject, its about the La7 and its flight characteristics. Not someone who dislikes the plane and is calling for it to be perked.

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« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2001, 02:20:00 PM »
Given the number of La7's lately it's obvious it's a promising plane, mainly due to the fact that it is unescapable, combined with other attributes that make it a lethal plane.

My take on the La7 and D9 --

acceleration and speed.

P-51B/D -- just speed

Where as any P-51 could be caught if he screwed up, both the La7 and D9 are capable of clobbing the throttle and leaving any trailing aircraft in the dust, excluding the Tempest, Ta152, another D9 or La7.

Some planes can get close under 275 mph, but after that they keep accelerating at a fast rate where as most others have a much slower acceleration rate. The G10 is much to that effect, where prop efficiency at speed drops.

They aren't hard to fight off, they are just annoying, like flies. Trying to equalize energy states of those two planes is an enormous undertaking.

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« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2001, 02:28:00 PM »
Leonid, I am glad I was party to making your dream come true  .

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« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2001, 02:48:00 PM »
 The LA7 is THE plane I get nervous the most about when I see them in a multiplane engagement. More so than the 190-D9, Tempest or TA-152 or either 51's.

   -Westy

(p.s.I'm NOT advocating perk status for any plane)

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