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Offline Plawranc

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Re: T3h N00k !!!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2009, 05:01:33 AM »
Guys, I am a little concerned at the fact that what was a light hearted "lets cheer for the big boom" post not unsimilar from the HAB post has been met with cold and deliberating points that I clearly mentioned I knew.

I just want to have a little pyro fun ya know, heck one of the programmers IS Pyro. This is A GAME. I know historical accuracy is important, but why do we have Spitfires fighting F4u's. They were in WW2 and therefore can be and should be added WHEN the ord layout is re-done.

So lay off the argument and enjoy the Idea please. Thankyou

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Re: T3h N00k !!!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2009, 02:20:46 PM »
Well lets just save the Grand slam for the new WWI arena then using the above logic? :bolt:

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« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2009, 02:23:42 PM »
Well lets just save the Grand slam for the new WWI arena then using the above logic? :bolt:

You heard the console kiddie, stop with the argument and enjoy the idea!


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« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2009, 02:40:41 PM »
Excuse me if I prefer a simulator that represents a decent portion of both sides in a global conflict.
The Germans have the second most complete planeset in the game.  The US has the only reasonably complete planeset.  The British have the third most complete sets.  The Russians, Japanese and Italians have nothing even resembling a complete set.  The French don't even have a single plane.

Making it Axis vs Allies, particularly when you really mean "Germany vs USA, UK and USSR", is disingenuous and wrong.
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« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2009, 02:55:43 PM »
Just thought I would toss this out there...

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« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2009, 04:52:23 PM »
You heard the console kiddie, stop with the argument and enjoy the idea!


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I like the idea but it's like asking for the Atom bomb & getting it & then not having a B29 to drop it?

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Re: T3h N00k !!!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2009, 06:21:49 PM »
didn't lancasters sink the Bismark's  sister ship with tallboys?


Germans ended up scuttling Tipitz I believe.
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« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2009, 08:05:01 PM »
No, Tirpitz was first badly damaged by explosive charges dropped by Royal Navy X-Craft miniature submarines. No sooner was the damage repaired than the Fleet Air Arm inflicted more in a series of carrier-borne attacks codenamed Operation Tungsten. A raid by 28 Lancasters of 9 and 617 Squadrons RAF on 15th September 1944 (21 carrying Tallboys, 7 loaded with 500 lb 'Johnnie Walker' mines) rendered the 'the beast' unfit for open-sea operations. The bombers flew on to Yagodnik in the USSR, the range being too far for a return trip to the UK from Kaa Fjord.

Tirpitz was finally moved south to Tromso to be used as a heavy artillery battery. Now just within range of Lancasters from RAF Lossiemouth, 40 Lancasters attacked again on 29th October but the fjord was cloud-covered and all bombs missed. The final curtain dropped on 12th November when 18 Lancasters of No.617 Squadron and 13 from No.9 Squadron achieved surprise and unloaded their Tallboys out of clear skies. Several bombs hit the ship, one of her main magazines blew up and she rolled over and capsized. Bomber-leader Wing Commander Tait of 617 Squadron was awarded a third bar to his DSO for leading all three raids - the first time a RAF officer was so honoured.

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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2009, 12:11:09 PM »
So lay off the argument and enjoy the Idea please. Thankyou

How can you "enjoy the idea" that can obliterate game-play?  Just off hand:

1) Damn tiger shot me, Boom! (I'm sure that it would have been considered "legitimate use of ordinance" in WW2 to drop a couple of 4k bombs on a single tank...)
2) One pass, no worries about that GV base anymore.
3) Two passes, no worries about that air base anymore.  (Both of the above are sure fun for furballing and actual FIGHTING, are they not?)

Thing is, you know EXACTLY where your targets are and those targets have minimal ground support and miniscule defenses compared to what attacking forces had to deal with during the actual wars, damage out put has to be toned down for balance and game play.  Plus rather than spending hours loading and flying to a target, you are there in 5 minutes greatly effecting the impact of those types of weapons.

I mean you want bigger bombs and the ground forces don't even have the AA guns that forced the bombers to attack at high altitudes in the first place.  We need true AA guns first.  Just think, how fun would it be to take a base if they all had a few of those 5" flak guns (or larger) about.....
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Re: T3h N00k !!!!!!!
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2009, 12:15:25 PM »
No, Tirpitz was first badly damaged by explosive charges dropped by Royal Navy X-Craft miniature submarines. No sooner was the damage repaired than the Fleet Air Arm inflicted more in a series of carrier-borne attacks codenamed Operation Tungsten. A raid by 28 Lancasters of 9 and 617 Squadrons RAF on 15th September 1944 (21 carrying Tallboys, 7 loaded with 500 lb 'Johnnie Walker' mines) rendered the 'the beast' unfit for open-sea operations. The bombers flew on to Yagodnik in the USSR, the range being too far for a return trip to the UK from Kaa Fjord. :cool:    

Yes, I see I left out the "r" in Tirpitz
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2009, 01:40:35 AM »
LOL. At least you've learnt something in this thread, provided you can read anything other than pro-German propaganda or 'Stars and Stripes'.

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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2009, 01:44:48 AM »
LOL. At least you've learnt something in this thread, Nemesis.

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Re: T3h N00k !!!!!!!
« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2009, 12:45:37 PM »
How can you "enjoy the idea" that can obliterate game-play?  Just off hand:

1) Damn tiger shot me, Boom! (I'm sure that it would have been considered "legitimate use of ordinance" in WW2 to drop a couple of 4k bombs on a single tank...)
2) One pass, no worries about that GV base anymore.
3) Two passes, no worries about that air base anymore.  (Both of the above are sure fun for furballing and actual FIGHTING, are they not?)

Thing is, you know EXACTLY where your targets are and those targets have minimal ground support and miniscule defenses compared to what attacking forces had to deal with during the actual wars, damage out put has to be toned down for balance and game play.  Plus rather than spending hours loading and flying to a target, you are there in 5 minutes greatly effecting the impact of those types of weapons.

I mean you want bigger bombs and the ground forces don't even have the AA guns that forced the bombers to attack at high altitudes in the first place.  We need true AA guns first.  Just think, how fun would it be to take a base if they all had a few of those 5" flak guns (or larger) about.....
might as well let it in, it wont kill the tiger anyways since i seen multiple tigers sit through  25k+ pounds of bombs being dropped right on it and not die.
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Re: T3h N00k !!!!!!!
« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2009, 12:47:05 PM »
LOL. At least you've learnt something in this thread, Nemesis.

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I already knew my "t" key was tripping out.
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Re: T3h N00k !!!!!!!
« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2009, 01:11:51 PM »
I love how people feel that the addition of a large bomb will some how suddenly decrease gameplay quality.

Isnt that kinda like the F4u-1C when it was unperked, it was over used and abused beyond belief.

Hmmm what did they do, THEY PERKED IT, I am all for perked ordnance like this.

I mean seriously, other than a few hours worth of coading (after 4k barrier is removed) what do you have to lose?

Nothing.....perk cost will keep them from being over used anyway.

Sheeezzz! Buncha whiners!   :rolleyes:

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