We are in SERIOUS need of a tankbuster

[Aladar]

We need a Ju87G2, Tankbuster version. It's almost impossible to kill those tanks!!

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KOMET, ADMIT IT, YOU WANT ONE!!!!!!!!

[Wingnut_0]

 

Originally posted by Aladar:
We need a Ju87G2, Tankbuster version. It's almost impossible to kill those tanks!!

I'd love an 87G..but with only 12 rnds of 37mm I'd have to have someone distract them while I came in from behind.

They'd start picking me off way before I could get close enough to accurately hit them.  

Wingnut

[juzz]

You wanna bust tanks? You need the BEAST

[leonid]

ahem.

May I suggest a better designed assault aircraft?

Il-2m3.

Good Day.

 

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leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights

"Our cause is just.  The enemy will be crushed.  Victory will be ours."

[funked]

Yep Il-2 or Il-10, planes that killed a LOT of tanks.  

[gatt]

What about this beautiful kite, never ever modeled in any sim (CK beta apart):

 

"We took off from Schweidnitz to attack a Russian tank column which was advancing between Streigau and Jauer. Flying with me in an Hs 129 B-3 as Number 2 in my Schwarm was a young pilot with fewer than ten operational missions to his credit. On our third approach against a T-34, his shot hit the side of the tank, just below its turret. The 75 mm round blew a hole about one metre (3 ft) in diameter in the left hand side of the hull and the tank immediately caught fire. During the following operation that day, while we were operating against tanks in the city of Streigau, a tank exploded after the first shot. The impact of the 75 mm cannon was extraordinary."

[Jerry B]

Lol gatt - it would be even better if it carried the downwards-firing array of 75mm recoiless guns. They were set off whenever the aircraft passed over a large metal object - which would make hitting those tanks a bit easier  

[Jerry B]

Gatt -

Where is that quote from?

[gatt]

Jerry,
check at:

 http://www.classic-books.co.uk/books/tophs129.html

one of the best books I have ever red.
Regards,
GATT

[Ripsnort]

You have 2 very excellent tank busters in the game, the Typhoon and F4U-1C.

[StSanta]

Rip, but for us historical German squads, we sorely miss something that can kill armour with cannons only.

We don't even have air to ground rockets.

Our birds can carry only one egg.

Our 30mm and 20mm are useless against anything with a little armour.

I'd be happy if the A8 had some of the bomb loadouts discussed in other threads, but a tank buster would make me jubilant  



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StSanta
JG54 "Grünherz"
"If you died a stones throw from your wingie; you did no wrong". - Hangtime

[gatt]

Did the Typhoons really knock out Panzer IV only with 20mm cannons? I mean from any angle.
I suspect that the high number of tank kills in AH by the Tiffies and the C-Hogs depend on uber-Hispanos. But I can be wrong.

Dedicated tank-busters can also be used in scenarios. We need also a self-propelled gun.

Fighters, medium bombers, tank busters, tanks, self-propelled guns ... voilà we can run the Kursk scenario.

Ok, ok, after the Dora, ok  

[funked]

Knocking out panzers with 20 mm is baloney.  I'm sure it could happen theoretically, but in practice, both Axis and Allies were forced to put larger and larger cannons in planes or develop anti-tank rockets.

Planes like the Il-2, Il-10, Ju 87G, and Hs 129 were far more effective against panzers in RL than the stuff we use here.

[This message has been edited by funked (edited 09-14-2000).]

[flakbait]

Hs-129 or Il-2 Type 3. Either would be fine for anti-tank/building/hangar work. The Hs-192 would just blast everything to rubble, while the Il-2 T3 could hit low-alt BUFFs in addition to nailing tanks.

VYa 23mm cannon on that Il-2 could punch through an inch of armor-plate steel at 400 meters. That's AP ammo of course. HE shells would just blow things to bits, kinda like a high-velocity 30mm Mk 103.

The Hs-129 I never heard of before a few people started mentioning it here. A single 75mm cannon from above would kill even a Tiger I E tank.

Either one I'm all for.


Flakbait
Delta 6's Flight School

[Karnak]

Yes, Panzer IVHs were vulnerable to Hispano cannons.

Even Panther Vs were destroyed by Tiffie cannon, just VERY rarely.  Panzer IVs would be quite vulnerable.

Sisu
-Karnak