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Offline Jigster

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« Reply #45 on: September 20, 2000, 05:32:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by funked:
I know what it is, but it destroyed exactly Zero (zilch, donut, nil, goose egg, nada, jack squat) tanks in WW2.

lol never made it beyond the "X" stage  

Friggan dorks in ETO. They could of ordered them. But nooooo...

Kinda like P-38K's.

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« Reply #46 on: September 20, 2000, 05:34:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Fishu:
Actually PZ-IV top is 10 to 15mm  
(but hey, it's 50% difference at some spots!)

you guys forget here that you're not shooting top of the tank from zero degree elevation.
If you wan't to do zero shots, you have to do it somewhere beyond 300 yards or you'll go splat into the ground. (and accuracy in that is different story..)

Elevation can provide very good bonus toughness for the armour.
With enough elevation, bullet just goes ricochet with just scraping the paint.
I wonder if AH models shot elevation on armor..

Little funny thing here is that usually when plane strafes tank in AH, it usually blows up or driver wounds, instead of losing engine or turret...
I'd keep it more realistic that tank would go into bits by part, not just *poof* no more. (by 20mm)

Your Über Hispanos might be good for punching through top, but from what range?
Nobody has never told me 'how far' they did do it in real life.

Well.. then I wonder why doesn't LW / Soviet guns punch through any armour?
If it's true that guns uses mixture of ammunition in AH, then MG151/20 and ShVAK should have AP also and I doubt those are useless...

I've already wasted to much time trying to explain armor slope and impact angles...they never listen  

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« Reply #47 on: September 20, 2000, 07:58:00 PM »
 I know what it is also! A Beech XA-38, which was modeled from the C-45 Expediter.


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« Reply #48 on: September 20, 2000, 11:26:00 PM »
Dedicated tank buster? Give us the IL-2 if the decision is based on pure production volume. Otherwise, I'll take an Hs-129. BTW, if you goto the site GATT listed for the book (Which is excellent), you should also buy their Me-262 book series. It is the best series on the 1Swallow' I have seen. They also have an excellent soft-cover series on the history of Luftwaffe Paint Schemes, but they also give you an analysis of the entire Luftwaffe history and plane types in the various squadrons and operations.

P.S.- Does anyone have the link for that new series of books just (The first Volume is out) released on the Aerial Warfare on the eastern front? `Red Star/Iron Cross' I think is the name of the series. I misplaced the link and want to order the first volume. Thanks.

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« Reply #49 on: September 20, 2000, 11:50:00 PM »

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« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2000, 03:04:00 AM »
Sundog -

The URL you want is: http://www.blackcross-redstar.com/

I got the first volume recently, and it's very good.

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« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2000, 05:38:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Jigster:
I've already wasted to much time trying to explain armor slope and impact angles...they never listen  

I must agree with this one...

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« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2000, 07:39:00 AM »
I'd like to find that Hs129 book, but cant find it ANYWHERE.