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Offline Vosper

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« on: September 16, 2000, 12:23:00 PM »
I can only imagine what it takes to produce such amazing artwork as we already have.  The Lancaster and JU as amazing, the PIV is great, etc, etc    

What I wanted to ask HiTech or anyone at HTC is this;  What about considering alternate artwork for some of the planes.  Not different sqn's, but I'm talking about doing RAF Mustang IV markings(for the 51) and/or Fleet Air Arm Corsair II markings (for the F4U1-D).  Even the P-47 was used by Commonwealth.  (Ok, so I'm partial to roundel's, I'm canadian, what do you expect   )

I would expect, if this was done, that there would simply be a separate listing to select the appropriately marked plane.  It wouldn't need any different modeling, just the artwork.

Thoughts from anyone at HTC or the community at large ?

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2000, 02:40:00 PM »
Not gonna happen I am afraid. There is only so much texture memory available to HTC and they have to keep in mind future planes to the game as well. Locking up excessive amounts in multiple possible paintjobs would be a waste of resources- not to mention it would screw up a great deal of the visual ID you need to identify seperate plane types withing the game. IE, if your facing a 109 your watching for the colour bands, blue swastika and nose colour to identify if it's a G10,F,G2 or G6. In combat making this more difficult with seperate paintjobs would make such a thing impossible.

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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2000, 03:37:00 PM »
I am ALL FOR many paint jobs. Screw texture memory, I have 64 megs. That's alot. Use texture compression. If you are paying 30 bucks a month and dont have at least 16 megs, well?

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2000, 07:39:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
I am ALL FOR many paint jobs. Screw texture memory, I have 64 megs. That's alot. Use texture compression. If you are paying 30 bucks a month and dont have at least 16 megs, well?


Nuthin I like better then seeing the same B-17 skin over and over in a massive formation.

 

But honestly people say they identify by the paint scheme...thats fine. Just learn the new ones like the old ones.

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2000, 09:01:00 PM »
 
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IE, if your facing a 109 your watching for the colour bands, blue swastika and nose colour to identify if it's a G10,F,G2 or G6. In combat making this more difficult with seperate paintjobs would make such a thing impossible.

No swastikas in AH, those are called Iron Crosses not swastikas.

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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2000, 09:31:00 PM »
Assuming we are going more and more to strategic play and scenario's...you got to add the 332nd skins for the pony. They had the best combat record in WW2 (with regard to bomber escort) and escorted 1st daylight raid on Berlin (I believe).

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2000, 09:40:00 PM »
 
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No swastikas in AH, those are called Iron Crosses not swastikas.

The G-2 is in Finnish Air Force colours and has blue swastikas on white background.  Also known as von Rosen crosses.  

 

These markings were the FAF symbol from 1918-1945 and have nothing to do with the German nazi party symbol.  But because of the "bad publicity" on the swastika after WW2, FAF changed its symbol into a blue-white roundel.

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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2000, 09:41:00 PM »
that FAF symbol is called a swastika?

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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2000, 09:45:00 PM »
It is called the von Rosen cross.  But it looks like a swastika, as you can see.

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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2000, 05:00:00 AM »
I did ask HiTech sometime ago about this and he said 'no plans' for it.

BUT yeah, I would like some alternate artwork, I would like such aircraft as the P47-25, P51, F4U-D, B26 etc. in RAF/FAA colours    Be good to have a green B17 too!  Additionally we could let the US have the Spit IX in USAAF colours!  

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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2000, 09:46:00 AM »
... so its not a swastika. it just "looks" like one.

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2000, 11:22:00 AM »
 
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Be good to have a green B17 too!  

I am sure we will see that when there comes B-17F, because those were green while G was metallic.

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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2000, 12:38:00 PM »
 
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I am sure we will see that when there comes B-17F, because those were green while G was metallic.

Well I just double checked the B17 'Flying Fortress Story' book I got.  I got a 447th BG, 388th BG, 94th BG, 384th BG, 385th BG, 730th BS, 615th BS (401st BG) and 337th BS (96th BG) B17Gs all in green.  They are definiately WWII photos.  

Either way, a B17G or B17F, nice to see green!    

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« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2000, 06:11:00 AM »
As far as I remember Allies stopped painting planes sometime towards the end of the war cuz they had total air superiority over Germany and there was no need to waste paint/drag extra weight all across Europe anymore.

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« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2000, 06:47:00 AM »
 
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... so its not a swastika. it just "looks" like one.

Yes, it's a swastika. The swastika has been used for thousands of years as a symbol of good luck, here in sweden ASEA (now ABB) used it on their products before WW2, and the Von Rosen family (one member of which founded the finnish air force) used the symbol as well.

My personal theory is that Herrmann Goering "borrowed" the swastika from Von Rosen, since it is known that he had a thing for the latters' daughter, but that's just a funny idea I have  .


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