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Offline rogwar

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Re: 2012
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2009, 09:43:51 PM »
We saw it at Movie Tavern so at least I could have 2 of these filled with Shiner.  :rock





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Re: 2012
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2009, 11:13:45 PM »
It is a special effects extravaganza and will probably not play that well on the small screen, simply due to the scope of the effects.

The Wife and I enjoyed it.  It was mindless entertainment at its finest. If you expect anymore than that, I think you will be severely disappointed.

That was my motivation in wanting to go see it, purely for the eye candy.

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Re: 2012
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2009, 06:08:14 AM »
How was the popcorn?
Wouldn't know.  We went to the Movie Tavern to see it.  Did the beer and pizza thing.

If I do get it do you suggest I put it on my projector instead of watching it on my laptop screen, then?

Up to you Spikes.  The bigger the screen, the better the details will show.  The effects were some of the most detailed effects I have ever seen.  I think it would be hard to appreciate the effort on a small screen.

That was my motivation in wanting to go see it, purely for the eye candy.

Yep.

We saw it at Movie Tavern so at least I could have 2 of these filled with Shiner.  :rock

Same here, and we added pizza as well.  We went to the one in Bedford.  All digital, which really made the movie pop.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2009, 07:34:35 AM »
I wish we had something like a Movie Tavern here.  I'd be more apt to spend the money taking the old lady to the movies more often.  As it is, we have seen 2 in the past 2 weeks which is totally out of character for us.

I enjoyed the movie, I knew what it was before I went and wasn't there really for the storyline either.  I have to agree the effects were pretty detailed.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2009, 02:24:11 AM »
I wasted my evening for this movie,was made by peoples without imagination,: i could write a better scenario for this movie with my poor English, :waste of $$$. There are few documentary on History,/Discovery about this subject way better and made with less $$.

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Re: 2012
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2009, 03:12:42 PM »
Who's hijacking now? lol :neener: Wrag made me say that!

I would go see the movie but I watch History Channel enough to KNOW!! whats coming in 2012. :x

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Re: 2012
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2009, 03:59:17 PM »
Up to you Spikes.  The bigger the screen, the better the details will show.  The effects were some of the most detailed effects I have ever seen.  I think it would be hard to appreciate the effort on a small screen.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2009, 04:53:42 PM »
Saw it yesterday....great movie for what it is IMO....I never felt like an agenda or propaganda was being pushed on me....I think the true purpose of disaster movies are case studies in human nature in dealing with those disasters and I think this movie hit the nail on the head in that aspect....the only parts that bothered me ironically were the climb rate of a fully-loaded certain Russian aircraft(you'll know what I'm talking about once you see it) and the time allowed for things to happen(I joked with my g/f that there would be a 30 second countdown and the main character had time to take a dump, read the morning news, go to the gas station and get a snack, grab a beer, and still "barely" get away from the disaster) but it's all a matter of suspending disbelief with these types of movies.

You won't see the full scope of the action scenes watching it on a 22" TV.

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Re: 2012
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2009, 07:08:46 PM »
Saw it yesterday....great movie for what it is IMO....I never felt like an agenda or propaganda was being pushed on me....I think the true purpose of disaster movies are case studies in human nature in dealing with those disasters and I think this movie hit the nail on the head in that aspect....the only parts that bothered me ironically were the climb rate of a fully-loaded certain Russian aircraft(you'll know what I'm talking about once you see it) and the time allowed for things to happen(I joked with my g/f that there would be a 30 second countdown and the main character had time to take a dump, read the morning news, go to the gas station and get a snack, grab a beer, and still "barely" get away from the disaster) but it's all a matter of suspending disbelief with these types of movies.

You won't see the full scope of the action scenes watching it on a 22" TV.

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Re: 2012
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2009, 09:49:32 AM »
WARNING: SPOILERS...

Saw it Saturday.  Impressive CGI work, but otherwise an incredibly poorly written movie with plot holes you could drive an An-225 through (which they did, several times).  The writers were just plain lazy, putting cliche after cliche in it, re-running the same escapes over and over: Plane begins moving as ground behind and underneath begins to crumble; plane races down the runway, the ground beneath caving in a hair's breath behind; the aircraft, still slightly below flying speed, carooms into a giant chasm that has opened suddenly, taking the end of the runway with it; plane struggles to pull out as it hurdles downward to the on-rushing wall of the fizzure, suddenly sooming up like a freight elevator at the last second, barely missing (or barely clipping) a collapsing structure (once a skyscraper, once a hill in Yellowstone, and once the Eiffel Tower replica in Vegas); occupants calmly discuss their next move as 100's of millions perish below them...

The entire movie was filled with implausible moments and circumstances, such as cell phones still working from one side of the world to another, after cataclysmic disasters have reduced most large cities to premordial wastelands, or normal evening traffic in D.C. after California has slide into the Pacific and the Yellowstone caldera has detonated like an H-bomb (cool visual effect, I have to admit) and coated everything west of the Mississippi in a pyroclastic cloud of ash, or the Earths tectonic plates moving 1500 miles in 5 or 6 hours (and not completely destroying all life on the planet).  The last was done simply to try to explain how the An-225 was able to fly non-stop from Las Vegas to Mt. Everest without refueling.

The one that absolutely killed it for me was when the American ark is spinning slowly towards a collision with the face of Mt. Everast ("We'll never survive the collision!"...though it has already managed to survive being hit by a 1500-ft high tidal wave, colliding with one of the other arks, and hitting a submerged mountain top). One of the ark's large outer access doors has jammed open due to our hero and his family's semi-successful attempt to sneak onto the ark.  All they need to do is start the ship's engines and stear away from their doom, but when ordered to do so by the stereotypically self-serving white-male presidential Chief of Staff (the also stereotypically heroic black President has elected to stay behind at the White House, which is crushed by the fictious USS JFK aircraft carrier), the Captain of the American ark says, "We can't start the engines until the door is sealed! :confused: Can anyone say, "Lowest bidder"?  Want to make any jokes about "Made in China"?  Can anyone think of one good reason why the engines of a ship would be designed to not function if ANY of the ship's numerous exterior access points were not watertight. Oh, and no, the arks were not submersible and neither was the ajar hatch below the waterline.  The CoS than demands to know where the "override" is to start the engines in the event that the hatch isn't sealed and they still want to be able to move and stear the ship; "There isn't one" replies an extra in uniform.  The whole point seems to be to require that John Cussak's charactor to face nearly certain death ("nearly" is the key word) by diving back under water in the flooded hydrolics bay controlling the door (where there seem to be no hydrolics, only emmence gears that chew up several people, but are relentlessly jammed by a length of pneumatic hose) and free the door mechanism.  As if that didn't completely destroy any semblance of reality, the very last scene is where, 27 days later after the air has cleared and the seas have calmed, they open ALL the exterior doors and hatches to allow people to go out on deck and breathe fresh air...and the engines DON'T suddenly stop! :headscratch:

Bottom line, the destruction quickly becomes numbing, the escapes to forumula, circumstances continually implausible in the extreme, and the plot clumsy.  Don't bother unless you're just into admiring skilled CGI (you can leave about half way through, as there's nothing particularly impressive after that).  Rent it from Netflix or Redbox, but don't bother buying it.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2009, 03:35:54 PM »
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Re: 2012
« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2009, 08:28:35 PM »
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they open ALL the exterior doors and hatches to allow people to go out on deck and breathe fresh air...and the engines DON'T suddenly stop! headscratch

LMFAO...didn't think about that....of course your points are valid but I didn't walk away from it thinking I wasted my money which always= a good movie experience IMO

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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2009, 11:22:27 PM »
WARNING: SPOILERS...

Saw it Saturday.  Impressive CGI work, but otherwise an incredibly poorly written movie with plot holes you could drive an An-225 through (which they did, several times).  The writers were just plain lazy, putting cliche after cliche in it, re-running the same escapes over and over: Plane begins moving as ground behind and underneath begins to crumble; plane races down the runway, the ground beneath caving in a hair's breath behind; the aircraft, still slightly below flying speed, carooms into a giant chasm that has opened suddenly, taking the end of the runway with it; plane struggles to pull out as it hurdles downward to the on-rushing wall of the fizzure, suddenly sooming up like a freight elevator at the last second, barely missing (or barely clipping) a collapsing structure (once a skyscraper, once a hill in Yellowstone, and once the Eiffel Tower replica in Vegas); occupants calmly discuss their next move as 100's of millions perish below them...

The entire movie was filled with implausible moments and circumstances, such as cell phones still working from one side of the world to another, after cataclysmic disasters have reduced most large cities to premordial wastelands, or normal evening traffic in D.C. after California has slide into the Pacific and the Yellowstone caldera has detonated like an H-bomb (cool visual effect, I have to admit) and coated everything west of the Mississippi in a pyroclastic cloud of ash, or the Earths tectonic plates moving 1500 miles in 5 or 6 hours (and not completely destroying all life on the planet).  The last was done simply to try to explain how the An-225 was able to fly non-stop from Las Vegas to Mt. Everest without refueling.

The one that absolutely killed it for me was when the American ark is spinning slowly towards a collision with the face of Mt. Everast ("We'll never survive the collision!"...though it has already managed to survive being hit by a 1500-ft high tidal wave, colliding with one of the other arks, and hitting a submerged mountain top). One of the ark's large outer access doors has jammed open due to our hero and his family's semi-successful attempt to sneak onto the ark.  All they need to do is start the ship's engines and stear away from their doom, but when ordered to do so by the stereotypically self-serving white-male presidential Chief of Staff (the also stereotypically heroic black President has elected to stay behind at the White House, which is crushed by the fictious USS JFK aircraft carrier), the Captain of the American ark says, "We can't start the engines until the door is sealed! :confused: Can anyone say, "Lowest bidder"?  Want to make any jokes about "Made in China"?  Can anyone think of one good reason why the engines of a ship would be designed to not function if ANY of the ship's numerous exterior access points were not watertight. Oh, and no, the arks were not submersible and neither was the ajar hatch below the waterline.  The CoS than demands to know where the "override" is to start the engines in the event that the hatch isn't sealed and they still want to be able to move and stear the ship; "There isn't one" replies an extra in uniform.  The whole point seems to be to require that John Cussak's charactor to face nearly certain death ("nearly" is the key word) by diving back under water in the flooded hydrolics bay controlling the door (where there seem to be no hydrolics, only emmence gears that chew up several people, but are relentlessly jammed by a length of pneumatic hose) and free the door mechanism.  As if that didn't completely destroy any semblance of reality, the very last scene is where, 27 days later after the air has cleared and the seas have calmed, they open ALL the exterior doors and hatches to allow people to go out on deck and breathe fresh air...and the engines DON'T suddenly stop! :headscratch:

Bottom line, the destruction quickly becomes numbing, the escapes to forumula, circumstances continually implausible in the extreme, and the plot clumsy.  Don't bother unless you're just into admiring skilled CGI (you can leave about half way through, as there's nothing particularly impressive after that).  Rent it from Netflix or Redbox, but don't bother buying it.

 :lol
Just got back from seeing it and you missed one:
When the An-225 was going to refuel in whatever country that was, they arrive and the area is a molten lava wasteland.  Gordon then says "It's okay, we didn't have a landing gear anyways" or something to that effect.  So the plan was to belly land, refuel, and then skid back off?  It made no sense.

I enjoyed this movie immensely though, the CGI epic disaster sequences were so incredible, I really didn't mind a few plot holes.  Who cares, this movie was FUN!   :aok

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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2009, 03:28:57 PM »
:lol It was Hawaii they intended to land at, and yeah, I forgot to include that one.  Exactly what were they planning to do to get off the ground again??? :joystick:  :headscratch:  Also, why didn't they dump most of the cars out the back of the plane and shut down 4 of the six engines.  That would have extended their range considerable.  Guess none of them had an E6B handy.

Aw well, in any event I agree that the effects were impressive, especially the earth quake scene when they were heading to the airport in the limo.  The fact that that was all CGI was amazing.  The shots at distance were not as impressive, but still cool (at least initially)  Oh, another plot problem was the fact that it only took 27 days for the seas to calm, the skies to clear, and the seas to receade. When the volcano on Krackatoa (sp?) blew, it darkened the sun for a year, causing a year without a summer.  With virtually every volcano on Earth going at once (including the super volcano at Yellowstone), they should have been choking in volcanic ash for at least a year.
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Re: 2012
« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2009, 06:43:56 PM »
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Also, why didn't they dump most of the cars out the back of the plane

That did bug me from the moment they showed the cars...I was like "Oh this'll be cool they're gonna dump them while they're taking off.....nope they just lifted....oh ok they're gonna dump them while they're trying to make the climb...oh ok....oh ok now they're gonna dump them when they're low on fuel" LMAO....my girlfriend elbowed me after awhile.