JU87 w\37mm Cannon for Tank Busting

[caldera]

HOing bombers will never be the same.  Plus 1.

When (if) the Stuka gets updated, can we have a three 250 kilo bomb loadout option?  The 250s on the wings are handy, but it takes a while to get to alt with the big momma on board.  A center mounted 250 would be useful for quicker kills.

[ToeTag]

If you could catch them.

[Volron]

Do you think that the BK 37's will be added when the Stuka get's updated?  I can only imagine how much more of a sexy beast it will be once it's updated and the BK's are added....  

[Plawranc]

could you imagine the later model, with 2 20mms in the wings and a set of TB cannons, you would have to perk a Stuka 

that said, +1 million for a Cannon Stuka, both a2a and a2g cannons! 

[Hopper]

Stuka needs the ability to up with no ordance also!

[Volron]

Stuka needs the ability to up with no ordance also!

Definitely.

[Ack-Ack]

could you imagine the later model, with 2 20mms in the wings and a set of TB cannons, you would have to perk a Stuka 

that said, +1 million for a Cannon Stuka, both a2a and a2g cannons! 

The G-2 didn't retain the 20mm wing cannons of the D-5, which is the airframe the G-2 is based on.

ack-ack

[bustr]

BK 3.7 Specifications
•   Type: single-barrel automatic cannon
•   Caliber: 37 mm (1.46 in)
•   Cartridge: 37 mm x 263
•   Operation: Short Recoil
•   Length: 3.63 m (11 ft 11 in)
•   Weight: 295 kg (650 lb)
•   Rate of fire: 160 rpm
•   Muzzle velocity: 1,170 to 780 m/s (3,836 to 2,557 ft/s)
•   Projectile weight: APCR 380 g, HE 640 g, AT 685 g

The remaining German guns were all adaptations of ground guns. The first was the 37 mm BK 3,7, a modified version of the FlaK 18 AA gun firing the same 37x263B ammunition. This meant that it was bulky, heavy and slow-firing by comparison with the NS-37, for example. It also remained clip-fed, with a maximum capacity of just 12 rounds. It mainly fired Hartkernmunition ammo, capable of penetrating up to 140 mm / 100 m / 90 degrees although this was halved at a striking angle of 60 degrees.

NS 37 Specifications
•   Type: single-barrel automatic cannon
•   Caliber: 37 mm (1.46 in)
•   Operation: short recoil
•   Length: 2455mm (N-37D)
•   Weight (complete): 103 kg (227 lb)
•   Rate of fire: 400 rpm
•   Muzzle velocity 900 m/s (HE, HEI-T), 880 m/s (AP-T)
•   Projectile weight: 735 g (26 oz)

The NS-37, unusually for the USSR, used a short-recoil mechanism and was belt-fed. It was a particularly slim weapon, with a compact mechanism, suitable for fitting between the banks of a liquid-cooled vee-engine to fire through the hollow propeller hub. The powerful 37x195 ammunition is quoted as penetrating 48mm / 500m / 90 degrees, enough to pose a threat to the side or rear armor of virtually any tank.

Um who's right?

Depending on the BK 3.7 ammo 860-900m/sec. Yes the BK 3.7 18. 1170m/sec H.Pzgr....M.Pzgr is HE semi AP at the lower M/sec.

[Hopper]

could you imagine the later model, with 2 20mms in the wings and a set of TB cannons, you would have to perk a Stuka 

that said, +1 million for a Cannon Stuka, both a2a and a2g cannons! 

It would definately get more use!

[Reaper90]

OH HEEEALLLZ YEHHHH    BOYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEE                     

[Reaper90]

Well for some reason the link above isn't working, so here's the pic that should be above.... 

[Volron]

Looks like that T-34 is about to have a VERY bad day. hehehe

[kvuo75]

Looks like that T-34 is about to have a VERY bad day. hehehe

then the tiger is gonna flip over on the little brick wall and need supplies. 

[tmetal]

Was wondering about this yesterday and thought I would post it here. Ok here goes, If/when the 37mm gun pods get added will they be considered part of a gun package or as wing ord? If considered wing ord, will they be able to take damage? For as long as I have been playing (admittedly less than a year) I have never seen or heard of ord taking damage while still on the plane, this includes bombs, rockets, and drop tanks...so again the question - would gun pods take damage if considered ord in the loadout hangar?  I know some here would point to the IL-2 or the cannon Hurri and say their guns are part of a guns package and how their large guns can be disabled from damage, but from what I can tell the guns on those planes are built into the airframe we have modeled in game where as the 37mm guns for the stuka are in gun pods that could be removed or attached as the sortie required.

All right, summary.  How would HTC implement the gun pods in the loadout hangar? Is it even possible to damage ord still on a plane in game right now, and if not would HTC have to spend extra time to code in damageable gun pods for the stuka, and would they extend that extra coding to include all external options for all planes in game? Anybody out there got answers or opinions on this?

[STEELE]

I would settle for the addition of MG151/20's in our D-3. The JU87 D-8 (which has the identical airframe/wings of our current D-3) had them. It sounds like a very simple upgrade and would give the Stuka a lot of use, not to mention the ability to kill aircraft with ease (Dont say it wont transform it into a decent dogfighter Mr. Ack because I kill many a plane in SBD's) 
If we do get the 37mm pods, definitely should not be perked, unless the il-2's 37mm get perked as well
Back to the MG151/20 idea, very little changes to the damage model and graphics would be required.