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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2009, 11:20:48 AM »
4096 = 128MB of video RAM being dedicated to one texture.  Even with 512MB of dedicated video RAM, you could run the video card out of RAM with this setting.

8192 = 512MB of video RAM being dedicated to one texture.  A video card would have to have 1GB of dedicated video RAM to run this setting, and even then it will get close to running out of video RAM.
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2009, 03:27:27 PM »
Awesome info Skuzzy, thanks. I never figured out the calculations on the VRAM for the different shadow maps. Thanks for the info!
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2009, 09:05:11 AM »
Whats a good framerate to have?
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2009, 09:35:46 AM »
Whats a good framerate to have?


a good framerate to have is something higher than the lowest acceptable for your personal tastes..... in other words if your comfortable flying with a framerate of 45 then a good framerate to have would be  higher than 45

an excellent framerate would be equal to (with vsync on) or higher than (with vsync off) the refresh rate of your monitor which in most cases is 60
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #34 on: November 21, 2009, 09:58:39 AM »
Whats a good framerate to have?

I don't know if the current AH version looks any different, but in the past I always felt as if the game was stuttering if framerates ever dropped below 45ish.  If you fly around and most of the time framerates are pegged at your monitor's refresh rate (60 for me), then they might not sag too far when you get into a fight.  And that's the most important for gameplay, how far the framerate sags in a fight.  Sagging below 30 is unacceptable in my opinion, and below 45 it felt like the teeny tiny stuttering would affect how well I could aim and maneuver against the other players.  Some people are happy with FPS sagging to 20 occasionally, but for me anything below 30 meant I would immediately go to the settings menu and turn down some options, and I'd aim for 45 fps or higher for almost all of the time even in fights.

If I couldn't run framerates that high, then I'd save my pennies and buy an upgrade of some sort.  AH doesn't change hardware requirements all that often and they've left in lots of graphics options you can turn down or off, so even lower end hardware can still get you pretty high framerates.  You just lose some of the graphics eye candy, that's all.  But I figure if you're playing the game just for the eye candy, there are lots of boxed games that look better than AH so you can fly them to get the absolute prettiest graphics.  If you want realistic planes and the AH gameplay though, there isn't any realistic alternative right now.
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #35 on: November 21, 2009, 10:33:42 AM »
Oddly enough frame rate and stuttering seem to be dependant on hardware.  As an example, on my current machine which is always pegged at my refresh rate (59 fps), a frame rate drop to 45 feels unacceptable, producing some minor stuttering.  I can force this to happen by turning on smooth shadows.

On my old Dell machine which typically runs around 25-35 fps, even a dip to 15 fps leaves the game smooth and playable with no obvious stuttering.

I'm at a loss to explain this, but I've tested them side by side on numerous occasions and the old Dell remains smooth at low fps while the new machine does not.
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #36 on: November 21, 2009, 05:47:50 PM »
4096 = 128MB of video RAM being dedicated to one texture.  Even with 512MB of dedicated video RAM, you could run the video card out of RAM with this setting.

8192 = 512MB of video RAM being dedicated to one texture.  A video card would have to have 1GB of dedicated video RAM to run this setting, and even then it will get close to running out of video RAM.

Thanks Skuzzy!

That explains why my lil 'ole GTX 260 stutters a little when I had the 8192 enabled & ran smooth when I had the 4096 enabled.
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #37 on: November 22, 2009, 01:40:08 AM »
the 5770 is a bit short to put the self shadowing on, and I have a decent CPU (Phenom II X4 965).

About stuttering I have noticed something, when I put the slider ground distance to max, I may have a bit of stuttering from time to time, while reducing the slider a few pixels totally fixes it.
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2009, 03:27:13 AM »
Tests were done offline using the same settings I first posted.

First entering the city is when FR are the lowest, I guess due to texture loading?







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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2009, 04:33:07 AM »
My frame rates also dropped when first entering the city.
Mine drop to 31 fps, then go back up to 60.
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2009, 07:01:08 PM »
Kazza, what kind of FRs do you get without any shadows?

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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2009, 07:16:22 PM »
the 5770 is a bit short to put the self shadowing on, and I have a decent CPU (Phenom II X4 965).

About stuttering I have noticed something, when I put the slider ground distance to max, I may have a bit of stuttering from time to time, while reducing the slider a few pixels totally fixes it.
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I have the 5770 on a C2Q Q9550 and I can run self shadowing fine with max detail on...however I turned shadowing off as it throws off my focus.
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2009, 08:57:13 PM »
Noir,
I have the 5770 on a C2Q Q9550 and I can run self shadowing fine with max detail on...however I turned shadowing off as it throws off my focus.
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Re: Sapphire ATI 5850. (very basic AH2 benchmark, pics inside)
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2009, 09:48:10 PM »
Noir,
I have the 5770 on a C2Q Q9550 and I can run self shadowing fine with max detail on...however I turned shadowing off as it throws off my focus.

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