Hows the Mossie doing?

[Animal]

Since I cant play the dang game because God hates me and I'm black and the CIA is always after me in those black silent helos and secret agents assigned to destroy all my computer hardware, I'd like to know how the mossie is doing on the MA, and how survivable it is.

Thanks in advance.

[Karnak]

The Mosquito is great.

It doesn't climb or accelerate as well as I expected, but it does everything else better.

It out rolls Spitfires and turns pretty good as well.  The firepower is staggering.

It has the overload ammuntion option for its guns too.

The are a couple of bugs with it, the 500lb bombs in the bombay are only 250lb bombs once you get to the plane and the tail wheel is always raised.

It has mid-range fighter capability and it launches out of the BH.  This is a problem IMHO.

I really, really like the Mossie.

[Tails]

The 'skeeter is doing great. From what I've seen flying it, it is definatetly a real nightmare for bombers. Two quick passes are all you need to make B-17's go pop  

[whirl]

it's not very survivable though.  it doesn't take ho's well, or ack well.  other than the damage it takes, it's the best mosquito i've ever flown in sims.

[MANDOBLE]

It is fast, really fast on the deck. And, as far as I've seen, very good diving acceleration. It is definitively in a radically different category than TBM or IL2.

[Dead Man Flying]

Though it's obviously too early to accurately say, the Mossie may potentially unbalance the arena.  It's very fast, certainly faster than others of its ilk (IL-2, Ju88, B-26), packs a horrendous wallop of concentrated firepower with its nose guns, enjoys a large ammo load, accelerates very well at low to medium speeds, furballs decently (I've been able to loop one at 180mph and consistently rope lower enemies with it), and carries a load of munitions close to that of the B-26.  As far as handling goes, it feels a lot to me like the old pre-roll rate reduced Typhoon without the nasty torque or spin.

What it seems to lack is overall durability.  One pass by a fighter can really screw it up.  It also lacks a bombsight, which could turn off dedicated buff pilots.  However, for most medium bombing endeavors it appears to render the B-26 obsolete.

-- Todd/DMF

[Zigrat]

it only carries a maximum of 4 500 lb eggs dmf, half that of the b26.

the nose guns a phenominal. you can tear the sh*t out of stuff with them. imagine a p38 with 4 hispanos in the nose instead of 1.


i had great success in it yesterday, i can envision the mosquito becoming my airplane of choice very easily.

[stomper3]

Err it carries max 2k eggs...

/stomp/  

[Tails]

I dont think it would be that unbalancing. It has a light bomb load and no bomb sight, so high-level bombing is pretty much out of the question. Ground attack and destruction of soft targets (cities, depots, factories) is what this mossie seems to accel at anyways.

Against fighters, most can out turn it, or BnZ it easily. True, though, if a fighter does cross it's sights, those guns'll make short work of the fool.

Against bombers this plane is more of an equalizer. As long as you dont dead-6 a bomber you can make even a B-17 go boom in a couple passes

[R4M]

I just have tried it offline (with a mouse as control, mind you    )

It gets off the BH, and I dont think thats right. It is usable as bomber/attack, while it should actually be fighter/attack. That plane is a fighterbomber,a pure jabo. Not a bomber.

Other than that it seems pretty fast and maneouverable for its size (as it was to be expected   ). I like it (I've always liked that plane),and I can't see how it will be unballancing. It packs a nice punch and a decent bombload, but is not as fast or as maneouverable as a single engine fighter.

I'm looking forward testing it online  

[ 10-05-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

[Airscrew]

I love it,  enjoyed flying it last night.  I agree with DMF, it reminds me of a Typhoon or Tempest with its acceleration and climb rate.   One weak spot for me is the view out the sides.  Because of those wide wings its very difficult to check your 9 and 3 oclock.  I practiced with it for awhile offline.  Stress limits seem about the same as Spitfire, starts groaning about 450.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Zigrat:
it only carries a maximum of 4 500 lb eggs dmf, half that of the b26.

Plus rockets... though I believe you're right in that you must choose between rockets or bombs under the wings, and not both.  In that case, it seriously defangs its ordinance threat.

 

the nose guns a phenominal. you can tear the sh*t out of stuff with them. imagine a p38 with 4 hispanos in the nose instead of 1.

Freakishly scary guns.  This is where it has the B-26 beaten for sure... though it carries half the ordinance, it packs a massive wallop for strafing.  When all's said and done, I'd wager that the destructive power is roughly equivalent.

 

i had great success in it yesterday, i can envision the mosquito becoming my airplane of choice very easily.

Me too.  The thing is a vulcher's dream machine.  

-- Todd/DMF

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Tails:
I dont think it would be that unbalancing. It has a light bomb load and no bomb sight, so high-level bombing is pretty much out of the question. Ground attack and destruction of soft targets (cities, depots, factories) is what this mossie seems to accel at anyways.

Most B-26s I see these days appear to go for low or medium altitude fast attacks.  The high alt stuff is usually reserved for Lancs or B-17s.  So in that low, fast roll I can see the Mossie replacing the B-26.  I definitely agree with you that the lack of a bombsight will be its major shortcoming for the average buff pilot.

 

Against fighters, most can out turn it, or BnZ it easily. True, though, if a fighter does cross it's sights, those guns'll make short work of the fool.

I disagree that most will outturn it.  It actually turns surprisingly well at around 200-225mph.  And because it accelerates so fast, it can do a number of speed-draining manuevers and get back up to a good turning speed in a hurry.  Also, its two engines negate torque, making it as effective in the vertical as the P-38.  I was surprised at how slowly I was able to loop such a large plane, or for that matter, keep it standing with its nose up.

 

Against bombers this plane is more of an equalizer. As long as you dont dead-6 a bomber you can make even a B-17 go boom in a couple passes

I totally agree here.  I'm curious to see how well the Mossie functions at medium through very high altitudes where most of the B-17s and Lancs can be found.

-- Todd/DMF

[Wilbus]

First flight, took internal bombs and 8 rocket, just barely missed a palm tree by the end of the runway (I gave it a nice trim though). Went up to 10k, leveled out for about 1 minute that a friendly sole gave me a 6 call, 109 coming down from a few k higher, 3000 yards away still gaining pretty fast. Put nose down, gotto drop my bombs on that suply depot, my god that thing accelerates FAST in a dive, bombs away! Took out a few houses, akcs hit my right engine, radiator hit! 109 is now 1000 yards behind me, I fire all rockets, 109 is loosing on, 1.1, 1.2. Mountain ahead, gotto climb, 109 is slowly gaining, please let the mountain go away! Valley on the other side, noce down, 109 is now 950 yards, diving, diving, paddle faster my dear twin! 1000 yards, 1.1, he's losing on me fast now, 1400 yards, he's braking off.

It's unclear wether this was a G10 or G6, it's wasn't an F4 and not a G2, whatever it was, it was left behind, and whatever it was, it should have stayed on my 6 because 2 seconds after he broke off my right enigine died. I returned to base and panic ditched right beside runway (vulchers nearby). When I land I see my country mate, who allso attacked the suply depot coming back with an oil leak in his rigth engine, he makes a victory roll and then lands.

This plane has brought me into the world of RAF and it might very well be on of the planes I fly most.

[Vermillion]

To be honest, I'm pretty amazed.

I haven't done any quantifiable testing, but I figure the speed/climb numbers are on the money (given Pyro's history).

However two things amaze me.

Roll Rate:  Admittedly the P38 is similar, but both aircraft seem to lack the historically reported roll inertia, but the sustain roll rates again are probably pretty close. To be honest I figure it is simply a limitation of the flight model that is used in AH.

Turn Rate/Vertical Manuevers: Now this is just a first impression from just 3-4 Mossie sorties last nigth, but Wow... Wow... Wow...

The mossie in AH is nothing like I expected, and diametrically oppossed to the characteristics as modeled in every other flightsim I have flown.

Its is probably the best turning "BnZ" aircraft in the game, and I was literally furballing in it with Spitfires and Hurricanes, after I made my Jabo runs. No I couldn't out turn them, but if I flew smart, I could definitely stay in the fight.

To me, and this is just a feeling no evidence what so ever, is that the Mossie might have the "E bug" similar to the earliest release of the P38 that made it a dogfighting machine, but was fixed by the second patch. Just a feeling, so don't flame me too much  

And the guns on this beast... Truely EVIL  

It will be the new Jabo King of the Hill