Whistle blowing on Global Warming

[CAP1]

CAP,

Untill Penguin's parents aren't paying his bills and taking responsibility for his mistakes. His 3 digiit IQ and glib debating style does not mean he has a dog in this fight with us no matter how enchanting or entertaining he is. Where you and I have worries and consiquences every day that can bankrupt and make us destitute inside of a few months. Penguin can crawl back into his bed and wake up in the morining knowing mommy and daddy have him covered. He has no experience to have a real opinion other than what he has memorised and emotionaly identifies with. He will not suffer the same consiquences we will if he identifies with an erronious set of ideological ideals. He is also baiting you to continue paying attention to him becuase his flavor of the month ideologicly is 180 degrees from your own.

CAP, why are you letting a child run you in circles? Do you fight with children in person as an adult?

yea, you're right........

like i said before......hopefully, he starts to question authority, and question the drivel that's being pumped into his head, and read a little.......ane possibly form his own opinions.......which if he reads a little, will be significantly different than those that he's being told to have.

appreciate the insight dude!

BTW......i don't fight with anyone in rl........discuss, yes....fight no.........and you're also right.... not with kids.

[RTHolmes]

no offence CAP but its a bit rich you telling someone to go read when you yourself cant be bothered to pick up a dictionary to learn the difference between climate and weather...

[CAP1]

no offence CAP but its a bit rich you telling someone to go read when you yourself cant be bothered to pick up a dictionary to learn the difference between climate and weather...

that would be due to the fact that weather systems combined make up our weather?

[CAP1]

here ya go........http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/06/nasa-study-shows-sun-responsible-for-planet-warming/

[Shuffler]

OOOPS   
They finally admit their falsehood.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/02/15/global-warming-insignificant-years-admits-uks-climate-scientist/?test=latestnews

[sluggish]

OOOPS   
They finally admit their falsehood.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/02/15/global-warming-insignificant-years-admits-uks-climate-scientist/?test=latestnews

From your article

"To say when you're the record keeper for the globe's temperature that you're not a good record keeper, well, that's going to come back to haunt you for a long, long time," Pat Michaels.of the Cato Institute, a public-policy think tank, told Fox News.

No kidding captain obvious.

[Penguin]

CAP,

Untill Penguin's parents aren't paying his bills and taking responsibility for his mistakes. His 3 digiit IQ and glib debating style does not mean he has a dog in this fight with us no matter how enchanting or entertaining he is. Where you and I have worries and consiquences every day that can bankrupt and make us destitute inside of a few months. Penguin can crawl back into his bed and wake up in the morining knowing mommy and daddy have him covered. He has no experience to have a real opinion other than what he has memorised and emotionaly identifies with. He will not suffer the same consiquences we will if he identifies with an erronious set of ideological ideals. He is also baiting you to continue paying attention to him becuase his flavor of the month ideologicly is 180 degrees from your own.

CAP, why are you letting a child run you in circles? Do you fight with children in person as an adult?

Are you just trolling for fun?

Well yes, I can't really change much about my age except for waiting at the moment.  Attacking that shows how much more you crave attention than I do.  Why is it that whenever I try to debate, someone pulls the "Can it kid, you're stupid and shouldn't speak until spoken too" argument.

3 points of IQ, I doubt it.  Glib?  You think I'm glib?  Take a look at yourself, making pointless personal attacks that really make no sense at all.  I'm a kid, I haven't learned everything yet, so what?  What can I do about it?  Really, you should think your arguments through a little more.

CAP, Widewing, and assorted others, have I been trolling and attention seeking?  (I mean this seriously!)

-Penguin

[Anaxogoras]

Are you just trolling for fun?

Well yes, I can't really change much about my age except for waiting at the moment.  Attacking that shows how much more you crave attention than I do.  Why is it that whenever I try to debate, someone pulls the "Can it kid, you're stupid and shouldn't speak until spoken too" argument.

Because you've been exposed to the tools of debate without having a sound teacher to instruct you on their proper use.   It's like you found a foil, but try to hack with it instead of making precise thrusts.

That said, I do not think you're stupid.  But it might be worth noting that there are a number of younger players here who do not give away their age when they post, e.g. mensa, bubi, enker...and frankly those three have far more sense than a big chunk of the adults here.

[Shuffler]

Are you just trolling for fun?

Well yes, I can't really change much about my age except for waiting at the moment.  Attacking that shows how much more you crave attention than I do.  Why is it that whenever I try to debate, someone pulls the "Can it kid, you're stupid and shouldn't speak until spoken too" argument.

3 points of IQ, I doubt it.  Glib?  You think I'm glib?  Take a look at yourself, making pointless personal attacks that really make no sense at all.  I'm a kid, I haven't learned everything yet, so what?  What can I do about it?  Really, you should think your arguments through a little more.

CAP, Widewing, and assorted others, have I been trolling and attention seeking?  (I mean this seriously!)

-Penguin

Looks to me as they are saying your lack of life's experiences limits your input. That seems factual and in no way resembles a personal attack.

When you are older and your choices dictate whether or not you eat tomorrow or go hungry then your opinion takes on a more realistic view.

I don't believe anyone called you stupid, just inexperienced.

[Penguin]

Wow, Anax was right, I need a teacher for this!  I guess I misread his post, I saw a sneering personal shot; because he called me a baiter, and attacked my ideology (I guess, I really haven't gotten that far in politics), and he said that I'm not arguing that well (from as much as I can tell from "he doesn't have a dog in this fight as much as we do"). 

On that last point, do enlighten me.  Anax, you're right, I need a teacher for this.  Can you teach me the way of the word-warrior? 

-Penguin

[Anaxogoras]

On that last point, do enlighten me.  Anax, you're right, I need a teacher for this.  Can you teach me the way of the word-warrior? 

I have neither the time nor the desire, but I cringe at the phrase "word-warrior."  Our arguments are only as good as the true facts they express, and even the uneducated can tell the difference between someone who genuinely aims for clarification and understanding with their arguments, versus someone who is out to score verbal points.

My advice is to take a college level English or Philosophy course on critical thinking and go from there.  The kind of student peers you have can make a world of difference, however.  For example, a course at a junior college isn't worth as much as a 4-year university course, not because it lacks quality content or a competent instructor, but because your peers won't give a damn and won't have many interesting things to say.

Naturally, that's a generalization and there will be fortunate exceptions.

[sluggish]

I have neither the time nor the desire, but I cringe at the phrase "word-warrior."  Our arguments are only as good as the true facts they express, and even the uneducated can tell the difference between someone who genuinely aims for clarification and understanding with their arguments, versus someone who is out to score verbal points.

My advice is to take a college level English or Philosophy course on critical thinking and go from there.  The kind of student peers you have can make a world of difference, however.  For example, a course at a junior college isn't worth as much as a 4-year university course, not because it lacks quality content or a competent instructor, but because your peers won't give a damn and won't have many interesting things to say.

Naturally, that's a generalization and there will be fortunate exceptions.

On this bolded point I coud not disagree more.  The student peers of a community junior college are much more likely to come from all walks of life with vast life skills and experience than students of a four year university whom are there right out of high school on mom and dad's dime.

Naturally, that's a generalization and there will be fortunate exceptions.

[CAP1]

On this bolded point I coud not disagree more.  The student peers of a community junior college are much more likely to come from all walks of life with vast life skills and experience than students of a four year university whom are there right out of high school on mom and dad's dime.

Naturally, that's a generalization and there will be fortunate exceptions.

top off what you said, with the mere thought of having to go to college to learn to think.............

if you can't think on your own, or can't reason on your own, college will do nothing more than empty your wallet.

[RTHolmes]

true, but if you can think for yourself further education will give you a bunch of new tools which you never even knew existed

[CAP1]

true, but if you can think for yourself further education will give you a bunch of new tools which you never even knew existed

further education could give me common sense?

i dated a woman whose iq was 2 points(i think) short of being rated genius. i wish there was an official way to rate common sense, 'cause she'd be in the negative there.......and i don't say that to be mean.........