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Offline Sonicblu

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1560 on: February 26, 2010, 09:00:30 AM »
Snow has two simple ingredients: cold and moisture. Warmer air collects moisture like a
sponge until it hits a patch of cold air. When temperatures dip below freezing, a lot of
moisture creates a lot of snow.  A rise in global temperature can create all sorts of havoc,
ranging from hotter dry spells to colder winters, along with increasingly violent storms,
flooding, forest fires and loss of endangered species. That's simple science.


Course global-warming skeptics like to point to these snowtorms as thier "proof" all
the while conveniently ignoring snow droughts like those in Vancouver.

I guess it just depends on how much Faux news and talk radio one takes in. Like
salt and arteries too much Limbaugh or Beck can clog your brain.

How much a rise in temp?



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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1561 on: February 26, 2010, 09:36:39 AM »


the stuff you quoted also just happens as part of our normal weather systems.


and an FYI........we do not need warm air to create rain/snow.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1562 on: February 26, 2010, 09:44:25 AM »
No, just warmER :D
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1563 on: February 26, 2010, 09:59:44 AM »
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1564 on: February 28, 2010, 03:18:41 PM »
srry I put " a rise in global temperature" in bold.

Then I ask the question at the bottom.

How much warmer??????????????????????????????????????????????????? specifically.

Does no one here know how to stick to a topic or argue a point???????????

Mostly soppy overgeneralizations

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1565 on: February 28, 2010, 03:39:20 PM »
No, just warmER :D
warmER will only make thunderstorms.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1566 on: February 28, 2010, 03:56:00 PM »
warmER will only make thunderstorms.

You really don't understand what you are talking about.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1567 on: February 28, 2010, 04:16:26 PM »
You really don't understand what you are talking about.

None of us do.  That includes you, too.

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1568 on: February 28, 2010, 04:57:25 PM »
You really don't understand what you are talking about.

yea, i do.....as the air warms up, it can hold more moisture. as it cools, it can hold less. as the air cools, it reaches a point where it can no longer hold the moisture it contains.

 you do not need a warm, or a warmer air mass in order to create precipitation though. you simply need the air to be saturated.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1569 on: February 28, 2010, 05:37:02 PM »
yea, i do.....as the air warms up, it can hold more moisture. as it cools, it can hold less. as the air cools, it reaches a point where it can no longer hold the moisture it contains.

 you do not need a warm, or a warmer air mass in order to create precipitation though. you simply need the air to be saturated.

No, but the simple physical properties of air dictate the warmer it gets the more water it can hold.

Also, even if it just makes more thunderstorms.....isn't it counter-intuitive to say that's not more rain?   :headscratch:

No logic in your statement whatsoever (it only makes more thunderstorms).
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1570 on: February 28, 2010, 05:43:53 PM »
Moray can you answer some  questions?

How much warmer is the earth getting in how much time?

And is it possible to heat the earths water 1degree with air? How hot would the air have to be?

What part is natural climate change and what percent of that would be man made?  

If the water is warmer woulnt that mean more evaporation and more water in the atmosphere to come back in the from of snow rain ect?

If the water is warmer doesnt it release more co2 into the atmosphere? Could the higher levels of Co2 be from the oceans warming first ( maybe undergound volcanos) then releasing more co2 into the air?

Thanks

With all due respect, you may find any or all of this information at the NOAA website.  I don't have to spoon feed it to you in here.  You can read it as well as I can re-type it here.

 I know what you are attempting to do and I won't be a part of it.  You are using well-trodden contrarian ideology that rests on false grounds, which, like the inundation of FOI requests, is mostly meant to make me waste my time defending your false accusations, at the same time lending credence to your position simply in the defense.
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1571 on: February 28, 2010, 05:44:39 PM »
None of us do.  That includes you, too.

I'll stand by my understanding of complex science, over yours, every day of the week.   :aok
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1572 on: February 28, 2010, 06:39:36 PM »
I'll stand by my understanding of complex science, over yours, every day of the week.   :aok

That, along with a dollar, will get you a cup of coffee.   :aok

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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1573 on: February 28, 2010, 06:44:58 PM »
That, along with a dollar, will get you a cup of coffee.   :aok

Actually, it's gotten me quite a bit of research money and quite a few publications.  You?
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Re: Whistle blowing on Global Warming
« Reply #1574 on: February 28, 2010, 06:49:22 PM »
Actually, it's gotten me quite a bit of research money and quite a few publications.  You?
And I'm sure the gravy train will keep rolling as long as you tow the line...

But what we were talking about was the complexities of climate not how much money you have been paid to swim with fishes.