Whistle blowing on Global Warming

[Penguin]

Too bad years ago we started fighting natural selection allowing those that would not be here to multiply at our expense. Now it is easy for those like al gore to bilk millions of dollars because so many are gullible.


I'll keep my money, my guns, and my freedom. You can keep the "change".

Kinda scary dude, how far are you looking into eugenics?  An inch, a mile?  Complete and total reorganization of the human gene pool?  Be careful what you wish for, as you know what happens when you take this kind of thing too far.

-Penguin

[sluggish]

Kinda scary dude, how far are you looking into eugenics?  An inch, a mile?  Complete and total reorganization of the human gene pool?  Be careful what you wish for, as you know what happens when you take this kind of thing too far.

-Penguin

Penguin,

Print the post that you quoted.  Put it away for twenty years.  Take it out and see if it makes more sense to you.

[Angus]

Not so far from our gene-pool to chimps. Or cows for that sake. Total re-organization could mean...anything

[Penguin]

Penguin,

Print the post that you quoted.  Put it away for twenty years.  Take it out and see if it makes more sense to you.

I am sorry, but I do not understand how the words in bold will make any more sense to me now then later.  If you mean to keep people with really bad congenital problems from procreating, that makes sense; the good of the whole comes before the good of the one.  If you are talking about, you know, that other way of doing it (think Queen of Hearts' favorite saying), I am shocked and horrified at the degeneration that I see in humankind.

-Penguin

[sluggish]

I am sorry, but I do not understand how the words in bold will make any more sense to me now then later.  If you mean to keep people with really bad congenital problems from procreating, that makes sense; the good of the whole comes before the good of the one.  If you are talking about, you know, that other way of doing it (think Queen of Hearts' favorite saying), I am shocked and horrified at the degeneration that I see in humankind.

-Penguin

Why would anything make more sense to you now than after many years of experience and growth?  Or do you feel the pearls of youth include wisdom that is lost with age?

[Penguin]

Perhaps this would make more sense with time, but I am still confused as to what the poster was trying to convey.  If he meant just making eugenics a bit stronger, ok.  If he meant going to the length of cleaning the gene pool the *ahem* quicker way, I'd be shocked. 

-Penguin

[CAP1]

Perhaps this would make more sense with time, but I am still confused as to what the poster was trying to convey.  If he meant just making eugenics a bit stronger, ok.  If he meant going to the length of cleaning the gene pool the *ahem* quicker way, I'd be shocked. 

-Penguin

he's trynig to tell you that if you survive for 20 years, that you'll understand the post that you quoted.

[cpxxx]

Here's one for you scientists. Apparently it's not standard practice to release data to other scientists in case they want to find mistakes in it. This from Prof Jones of CRU climagegate fame. Here's the video, go about four minutes in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK0oGnqtVXo&feature=player_embedded At about 6.5 minutes he makes not 'not standard practice' comment.

Is this now standard practice among scientists or is it just climate science? Or maybe it's just Professor Jones. He's not very convincing is he? Makes you wonder if he really has something to hide. Robust science........I wonder!

[A8TOOL]

I think the bogus information and incredible amounts of money spent on hyping up global warming are more based on potential bank profits than personal wellbeing. All this misinformation and hype needs a place to go. I'm not a scientist but I'd have to say, with the exception of a few road bumps,  everything going as planned.  A greener, more healthy way of thinking is at our feet.... for a nobminal weekly fee.

If we could just figure out how to stop cow flatulence the world would be a better place

[bozon]

Is this now standard practice among scientists or is it just climate science? Or maybe it's just Professor Jones. He's not very convincing is he? Makes you wonder if he really has something to hide. Robust science........I wonder!

There is such a thing as propriety data in science. The idea is to allow a scientist that worked hard to obtain data the time to analyze it thoroughly and publish, before others with an army of grad-students and post-docs take his data and publish quick, half-baked research just to be "first". However all such data normally becomes public after a set time. Some level of the data must be released together with the publication of the research. The norm is to allow other scientists to use "private" data in exchange for including the contributer as part of the authors list. If such collaboration does not work out, the waiting time till the data becomes public is not long on scientific research scale. Scientists are human and not all of them are nice humans, so there are sometimes dirty tricks in delaying data.

[Kev367th]

Here's one for you scientists. Apparently it's not standard practice to release data to other scientists in case they want to find mistakes in it. This from Prof Jones of CRU climagegate fame. Here's the video, go about four minutes in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AK0oGnqtVXo&feature=player_embedded At about 6.5 minutes he makes not 'not standard practice' comment.

Is this now standard practice among scientists or is it just climate science? Or maybe it's just Professor Jones. He's not very convincing is he? Makes you wonder if he really has something to hide. Robust science........I wonder!

More interesting is when he says no peer reviewer EVER asked for his models or raw data!
It certainly helps when 'mates' peer review your papers, doesn't it?

[Penguin]

Helps with homework papers!  Just kidding.  But yes, there was trouble afoot in those labs, some other climate scientists should look at what they did, after they provide the raw data, again.

-Penguin

[sluggish]

Helps with homework papers!  Just kidding.  But yes, there was trouble afoot in those labs, some other climate scientists should look at what they did, after they provide the raw data, again.

-Penguin

Dude.  The raw data is gone.  It was "lost".

[Penguin]

That's the point, so that they have to do all of their work again.  If it's true, there shouldn't be any problem.

-Penguin

[CAP1]

That's the point, so that they have to do all of their work again.  If it's true, there shouldn't be any problem.

-Penguin

you don't seem to understand. it's "lost" doesn't mean it's lost. it's "lost" means it was destroyed.

don't you think there is a reason that they did that?