Author Topic: Sort of "name this" (Read 644 times)

M.C.202 · « **Reply #15 on:** December 18, 2001, 09:41:00 AM »

GRUNHERZ said:
Actually that armament would more likely make it a SAI 403, the SAI 207 only had the two 12.7mm no 20mm cannon.

Hummm, I've got :
"Armament: Two 20mm Mauser MG151 with 90 rpb, and two 12.7 mm Breda-SAFT machine guns with 175 rpg."
in the source I used.

The climb is a bit slow, and not a lot of wing area, but the speed is good for 750hp.
With a small, thin wing the dive speed does not look too out of line.

M.C.202 · « **Reply #16 on:** December 18, 2001, 09:43:00 AM »

GRUNHERZ said:
Actually that armament would more likely make it a SAI 403, the SAI 207 only had the two 12.7mm no 20mm cannon.

Hummm, I've got :
"Armament: Two 20mm Mauser MG151 with 90 rpb, and two 12.7 mm Breda-SAFT machine guns with 175 rpg."
in the source I used.

The climb is a bit slow, and not a lot of wing area, but the speed is good for 750hp.
With a small, thin wing the dive speed does not look too out of line.

ra · « **Reply #17 on:** December 18, 2001, 11:26:00 AM »

Looks like another Macchi clone to me. I still doubt that Mach number too.

ra

M.C.202 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 18, 2001, 02:30:00 PM »

ra said:
Looks like another Macchi clone to me. I still doubt that Mach number too.

Humm....
------------------SIA 207----------------Macchi
airframe-------Wood-------------Aluminium

engine-----aircooled 750hp-------DB60X

weight max-----5,324lbs----------7,523lbs

Sort of like the F6F being a FW190 clone?

As to the dive speed, I have a book that said so, what have ya got to base your disbelief on? Italy did have some damm good designers, and still hold a world air speed record with a pre war plane

For the record the UNcorected airspeed at 10,000 feet was 466mph, does that match the supposed Mach number?

M.C.202 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 18, 2001, 05:32:00 PM »

oops, I forgot to add:
Nice model RA

Scratch build or is it a kit?

ra · « **Reply #20 on:** December 18, 2001, 05:36:00 PM »

MC 202 I was referring to the appearance: MC.205, Fiat G56, and this SAI 207. Did Mussilini pass an edict that all fighters must look alike?

I don't know what Mach 466 IAS at 10K translates to, but Mach .86 is very high for any WWII plane. I think the P-47 critical Mach was around .82 or .83.

ra

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #21 on:** December 18, 2001, 08:47:00 PM »

F8F Bearcat was based on FW190 design, not F6F Hellcat.

Grumman chief test pilot and Bearcat designer said that they would have a world beater if they only put an R2800 on a FW190 after examing and flying a captured Fw190A5.
He went back to Grumman and argued for design of such a plane as there was no US govt requrement for a small fighter at the time.

I know its heartbraking, I know it is,you can make fun of this if it makes you feel better. Its ok...

brady · « **Reply #22 on:** December 18, 2001, 08:53:00 PM »

J_A_B · « **Reply #23 on:** December 18, 2001, 08:54:00 PM »

Wouldn't that mean that the F8F CONCEPT was based on the FW-190, and not the actual design?

If the F8F was indeed nothing more than a FW with an R-2800 than I'd say otherwise. Obviously it isn't.

M.C.202 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 18, 2001, 11:27:00 PM »

OH DEAR GOD I'm sorry

I'll have to to a Bart Simpson and write a hundred times:

I will not pull the leg of GRUNHERZ, and if I do I will proof read the post first.

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