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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2009, 08:28:21 PM »
The B-26 was nicknamed the widowmaker because of it's number of crashes but yet, it's in the game.
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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2009, 08:40:26 PM »
The B-26 was nicknamed the widowmaker because of it's number of crashes but yet, it's in the game.

One of the things about flight sims like AH is that mechanical problems that plagued an aircraft aren't modeled, that's why planes that were notorious for their mechanical failures are in the game.  For example, the engine troubles suffered by the early P-38 models (like the G we have in game) caused by inadequate cooling systems isn't modeled in game.


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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2009, 02:29:12 AM »
Point taken, just pointing some things out about the plane.
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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #18 on: December 02, 2009, 06:12:12 AM »
The reasons behind the widowmaker nickname for the B-26 were due to the difference flying qualities (high wingloading/stall speed/landing speed) compared to the most US bombers of the era, not due to mechanical failures. The obvious good side of this was the gain in speed and therefore very good survivability in combat.

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #19 on: December 02, 2009, 06:13:19 AM »
Also it would help correct the imbalance between Japanese and allied Planeset's. Any scenario you care to try has the Allied side able to out bomb the axis 2 or 3 to 1. Allied fighters can carry more ord than the Axis bombers we have in game.

Judy would be a step in the right direction to correcting that.


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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2009, 02:37:51 PM »
True, thats why I suggested the Judy. It would be nice if there was a Japanese Torpedo bomber that had Forward Fireing guns.
B7A2.  Only 114 built though, and too late to operate off of carriers, they didn't have any left.  It was supposed to be about as maneuverable as an A6M5.

Data from wikipedia, matches data from every other source I've seen:

B7A2 Ryusei 'Grace'

General characteristics

    * Crew: 2
    * Length: 11.49 m (37 ft 8.33 in)
    * Wingspan: 14.40 m (47 ft 3 in)
    * Height: 4.07 m (13 ft 4.5 in)
    * Wing area: 35.40 m² (381 ft²)
    * Empty weight: 3,810 kg (8,400 lb)
    * Loaded weight: 5,625 kg (12,401 lb)
    * Max takeoff weight: 6,500 kg (14,330 lb)
    * Powerplant: 1× Nakajima NK9C Homare12 18-cylinder radial engine, 1,360 kW (1,825 hp)

Performance

    * Maximum speed: 567 km/h (306 kn, 352 mph)
    * Range: 3,038 km (1,888 mi)
    * Service ceiling: 11,250 m (36,910 ft)
    * Rate of climb: 9.6 m/s (1,889.8 ft/min)

Armament

    * Guns:
          o 2 × 20 mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons in wings
          o 1 × 7.92 mm (0.312 in) Type 1 or 13 mm (0.51 in) Type 2 machine gun in the rear cockpit
    * Bombs:
          o 800 kg (1,764 lb) of general ordnance or
          o 1 × 800 kg (1,764 lb) torpedo
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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2009, 03:38:54 PM »
Point taken, just pointing some things out about the plane.


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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #22 on: December 02, 2009, 06:30:53 PM »
Hmm thank for that info Ive heard of the Grace but didn't know it had Forward Fiering guns.
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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #23 on: December 02, 2009, 09:16:50 PM »
Alrighty, so as it stands, the list contains of:

< D4Y Judy  :cheers:     
 
< B7A2 Grace  :x

< B6N Jill  :x
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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #24 on: December 03, 2009, 11:59:41 AM »
+1 For this idea. :aok

While they're at it why not update the rest of the japenese planes?

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2009, 04:44:07 PM »
"One of the things about flight sims like AH is that mechanical problems that plagued an aircraft aren't modeled"

Sadly true. But not in IL-2, where engine mismanagement will drastically shorten your sorties - and the odd random engine failure has to be expected as well.

Ah yes, back to the matter in hand: I vote for the D4Y 'Judy' in both its inline- and radial-engined variants. And the B6N 'Jill'. And the J2M Raiden 'Jack', G4M 'Betty', Ki-21 'Sally', G3M 'Nell', A5M 'Claude', Ki-27 'Nate', Ki-43 'Oscar', Ki-46 'Dinah' . . .

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2009, 04:51:27 PM »
<is dragged away by men in white coats>

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Nothing wrong with those ideas  :aok

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2009, 07:09:27 PM »
B7A2.  Only 114 built though, and too late to operate off of carriers, they didn't have any left.  It was supposed to be about as maneuverable as an A6M5.

Data from wikipedia, matches data from every other source I've seen:

B7A2 Ryusei 'Grace'
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General characteristics

    * Crew: 2
    * Length: 11.49 m (37 ft 8.33 in)
    * Wingspan: 14.40 m (47 ft 3 in)
    * Height: 4.07 m (13 ft 4.5 in)
    * Wing area: 35.40 m² (381 ft²)
    * Empty weight: 3,810 kg (8,400 lb)
    * Loaded weight: 5,625 kg (12,401 lb)
    * Max takeoff weight: 6,500 kg (14,330 lb)
    * Powerplant: 1× Nakajima NK9C Homare12 18-cylinder radial engine, 1,360 kW (1,825 hp)

Performance

    * Maximum speed: 567 km/h (306 kn, 352 mph)
    * Range: 3,038 km (1,888 mi)
    * Service ceiling: 11,250 m (36,910 ft)
    * Rate of climb: 9.6 m/s (1,889.8 ft/min)

Armament

    * Guns:
          o 2 × 20 mm Type 99 Model 2 cannons in wings
          o 1 × 7.92 mm (0.312 in) Type 1 or 13 mm (0.51 in) Type 2 machine gun in the rear cockpit
    * Bombs:
          o 800 kg (1,764 lb) of general ordnance or
          o 1 × 800 kg (1,764 lb) torpedo


This is a good idea for an addition Karnak.  :aok

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2009, 11:52:38 PM »
Can it wait until we get the G4M Betty?  The game could really use a Japanese twin engine bomber.

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2009, 01:05:21 AM »
Can it wait until we get the G4M Betty?  The game could really use a Japanese twin engine bomber.
You mean an earlier Japanese twin engined bomber, as the Ki-67 we have is most certainly a twin engined Japanese bomber.
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