Author Topic: D4Y Judy  (Read 1965 times)

Offline Krusty

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #30 on: December 04, 2009, 01:11:55 AM »
Grace was probably used only for kamikaze suicide runs. It was a replacement for the B6N, which itself was also too late (the Japanese carriers being sunk) and the B6N Tenzan was used pretty much for suicide runs towards the end of the war. Well it's replacement can't have seen much action either.


I would doubt they ever dropped a torpedo in anger.  :headscratch:

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #31 on: December 04, 2009, 01:31:11 AM »
Its a twin engine fighter, they just mounted the twenty millimeter on the wrong end.

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #32 on: December 04, 2009, 01:45:06 AM »
Grace was probably used only for kamikaze suicide runs. It was a replacement for the B6N, which itself was also too late (the Japanese carriers being sunk) and the B6N Tenzan was used pretty much for suicide runs towards the end of the war. Well it's replacement can't have seen much action either.


I would doubt they ever dropped a torpedo in anger.  :headscratch:
You would be wrong too.  You really have a massive chip on your shoulder regarding the Japanese.  I don't know where you get this bias from, but it leads you to very faulty conclusions.  The B7A2 did see operational use.  The Japanese were not inclined to use their best aircraft as kamikazes.  You have this nutty idea that nothing the Japanese built in the last year saw any service at all and they had no idea what to do with an airplane once it left the factory.


That said, it is a very low priority for AH.
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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #33 on: December 04, 2009, 02:50:41 PM »
You're quite wrong, as a matter of fact, on my opinions of the Japanese aircraft. I have no such bias.

[EDIT: Your comments are obviously trying to throw my comments from the Ki84 thread in my face, but you fail because there's still no evidence they saw any action -- try again later]

It's a fact they used what they had for kamikaze attacks, and at the end of the war they had "superior" (compared to earlier) aircraft.

Even the "superior" B6N was used primarily for kamikaze attacks after.. what was it? Bougainville? After that there was little the Japanese could do. The B7N was a replacement for the B6N... Replaced it doing what?

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #34 on: December 04, 2009, 02:58:40 PM »
You're quite wrong, as a matter of fact, on my opinions of the Japanese aircraft. I have no such bias.

[EDIT: Your comments are obviously trying to throw my comments from the Ki84 thread in my face, but you fail because there's still no evidence they saw any action -- try again later]

It's a fact they used what they had for kamikaze attacks, and at the end of the war they had "superior" (compared to earlier) aircraft.

Even the "superior" B6N was used primarily for kamikaze attacks after.. what was it? Bougainville? After that there was little the Japanese could do. The B7N was a replacement for the B6N... Replaced it doing what?

The first time a B6N2 was used for kamikaze missions was during the Battle of Okinawa.  The B6N1 was not used in kamikazi attacks when it debuted in the Battle of the Philippines but lack of air superiority doomed the B6N1's battle debut and suffered heavy losses at the hands of the USN fighters. 


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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #35 on: December 04, 2009, 03:26:39 PM »
That's pretty much what I read. They had a lot committed, and they lost most of them. What they had leftover were eventually used for suicide runs.


As for the B7A2...

Did a bit of checking. They only were in 2 places. So I was checking to see the dates they were there, might give clues to the action they saw.

Only 2 groups had them: 752nd and Yokosuka Kokutais.

The 752nd only received them after 1945 had started, from what I can gather on the Internet. Before that they flew Betties and other planes.

Yokosuka is an airbase in Japan. It mostly had Raidens and Georges and whatnot to try intercepting the B-29 raids. In 1945 if you were an attack bomber stationed on the Japanese homeland, you tell ME what the chances are that they saw non-kamikaze action?

I'd be interested to learn a bit about 752 Kokutai history, though, see if any of them saw action.

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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2009, 11:07:51 AM »


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Re: D4Y Judy
« Reply #37 on: December 19, 2009, 07:17:22 PM »
+1 for Judy, Grace and Jill  :salute
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