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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009, 08:58:28 PM »
The last time they tried it, which I believe was tuesday, the made the most powerful energy sorce on the planet, putting out 1.2 trillion Joules, and they say it can go up to 30 trillion!
Think of the carbon footprint!!  THEY'RE RUINING THE PLANET!!!!











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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hardon Collider?
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2009, 09:00:29 PM »
Correct. Another simple way he did it was he took a large towel and threw balls across the towel. He then took a large ball and placed it at the middle of the towel, then threw balls around the big ball, and the little ball was sucked into the "field" of the big ball, as it went around the ball.

As a side note, the LHC can and more than likely will produce enough energy to create a black hole. The black hole on the other hand will only be the size of the width of your pinky, and will last only fractions of a second because as soon as it is produced, it will collapse on itself, so I don't think we have to worry about the world getting sucked into a black hole, but the real question is, if we were sucked into a black hole, would we actally know if we were in the black hole? Because it's not just one person going into the black hole, it will be everyone in the world, and how could we figure that out? Just kinda neat that we can produce that amount of energy.

A black hole the diameter of your pinkie would have the mass of the earth, it will create atom sized black holes.

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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hardon Collider?
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2009, 09:04:40 PM »
A black hole the diameter of your pinkie would have the mass of the earth, it will create atom sized black holes.

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Your swinging and missing today Strip lol :)
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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2009, 09:07:18 PM »
Your rebuttal does nothing to disprove my comments or prove your comments....

Also, please list any other examples in this thread of me being incorrect, providing hard data from reliable sources along the way.


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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2009, 09:10:07 PM »
Look again, you said that atomic partical, assuming that your saying that it would not produce enough mass to suck the Earth in. What I posted simply stated that it could produce somthing the mass of the Earth, thus, it would have to be the size of a regular human pinkie.
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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2009, 09:16:03 PM »
The LHC could only produce a black hole the size of an atom, if only for a infinitely short period. The only way it could become the size of a marble would be after it ingested the Earth. Black holes of that size are incredibly unstable and impossible to expand or even sustain their existence. So no, LHC could not produce a black hole of that size under any circumstance.

Please do a little more research before you discredit people about a subject you have only a rudimentary knowledge of.

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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #21 on: December 03, 2009, 09:27:27 PM »
Look again, you said that atomic partical, assuming that your saying that it would not produce enough mass to suck the Earth in. What I posted simply stated that it could produce somthing the mass of the Earth, thus, it would have to be the size of a regular human pinkie.
There was enough media hype spewed by people who had no clue what they were talking about to create a black hole capable of destroying the earth, that's about as close as it got ;)

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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2009, 09:29:04 PM »
The LHC could only produce a black hole the size of an atom, if only for a infinitely short period. The only way it could become the size of a marble would be after it ingested the Earth. Black holes of that size are incredibly unstable and impossible to expand or even sustain their existence. So no, LHC could not produce a black hole of that size under any circumstance.

Please do a little more research before you discredit people about a subject you have only a rudimentary knowledge of.

Strip
I wouldn't call it rudimentary, since you seem to forget the easiest theory in the book, so check yourself again.
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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2009, 09:37:56 PM »
Go read Wiki some more, by the way I am still waiting on some hard data that discredits me.

I wont be holding my breathe though......

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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2009, 03:41:15 AM »
Im excited to see what they can learn from this project.  Watched a program on national geographic that talked about problems they were having, and how hard it is to fix them when the collider is deep underground in a narrow tunnel.  they talked about the black holes too, and basically what strip said sums it up, they are at the atomic level, and don't have enough mass to sustain themselves, and vanish in tiny fractions of a second.  They said a black hole that size would have to be there for years to grow big enough to start destroying a noticeable amount of matter.
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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hardon Collider?
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2009, 06:16:07 AM »
A black hole the diameter of your pinkie would have the mass of the earth, it will create atom sized black holes.

Strip

The below quote was taken from a report completed by a Professer from  M.I.T ( my appologies i forgot to copy and paste the link )

"Before you can wrap your head around this research, consider how big a black hole has to be. For a stellar mass black hole, the event horizon – the point at which nothing can escape – is only a few kilometres from its centre. A black hole with the mass of the Earth? It would be less than 2 cm across. A black hole with the mass of a mountain? Smaller than a hydrogen atom."

Strip is right, although it would be a little smaller than a pinky

Great post Bosco, i love this stuff <S>
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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2009, 06:24:18 AM »
I'm more concerned about the development of SkyNet.

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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2009, 03:26:36 PM »
Go read Wiki some more, by the way I am still waiting on some hard data that discredits me.

I wont be holding my breathe though......

Strip
Wiki is probably the most unfactual factual site out there, I thought your genius self would have figured that out by now. You must have seen the Theory of Reletivity there as well. Yes ok I was wrong, are you willing to admit that?
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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hardon Collider?
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2009, 03:37:02 PM »
Neutrinos do not travel faster than the speed of light.....

You are correct. its Tachyons. got them confused :)

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Re: So, is anyone watching stories about the Large Hadron Collider?
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2009, 03:47:39 PM »
Wiki is probably the most unfactual factual site out there, I thought your genius self would have figured that out by now. You must have seen the Theory of Reletivity there as well. Yes ok I was wrong, are you willing to admit that?
Wikipedia, particularly high profile articles, is more reliable than some random website.