Author Topic: Thinking about me P-38 as I'm bored at work... (Read 2707 times)

batdog · « **on:** December 27, 2001, 09:31:00 AM »

How do you gents feel about it? Is it complex,easy,modeled well now? Do you fly it much? How do you fly it..E,angles, both? Just some general talk here.
I personaly have been flying it alot this tour. I love it. I doubt many remember that when I first came here to AH I tried my beloved P-38 but well... it was beyond me it seemed and the fragilty of it made matters worse.
It seem now that after flying AH for abit (8 or 9 months?) I'm finaly able to fly my favorite WW2 plane decently. The fix for the damage model has helped considerbly.

I like to fly a mix of E and angles with it. It seems to be able to turn w/planes that are faster well for the most part. Some of this is fuel load of course. It zooms well and in a shallow climb goes like a bat outta hell. The guns seem good as well. I'm actually doing decently in my K/D ratio in it as well... considering I quess I enjoy T&B-ing in it alot...lol

Like I said just bored at work and feel like "chewing the cud" w/other gents out there about my favorite ride.

xBAT

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Tac · « **Reply #1 on:** December 27, 2001, 11:26:00 AM »

It only needs to have the dive flaps fixed. And a J & F model

I fly it as a turnfighter vs planes I cant outrun and as an E/Angles fighter vs those I cant out-turn.

batdog · « **Reply #2 on:** December 27, 2001, 11:30:00 AM »

Yea..same TAC. A GREEN P-38J would be nice...

xBAT

Vector · « **Reply #3 on:** December 27, 2001, 11:32:00 AM »

Hmm, I've encountered with tac's P-38 few times and I could swear I heard jet engines

vector

Tac · « **Reply #4 on:** December 27, 2001, 02:59:00 PM »

Hey, it IS green aint it?. Since they havent put me green ride in, I have to look for the pleasure somewhere else.

And in this one you can hear the shrieking screams of the cons over the whine of the Jumo engines.

"sheeeeee *jet whine* eeeeeeeet" *pow*"

Citabria · « **Reply #5 on:** December 27, 2001, 09:05:00 PM »

p38 rules

Animal · « **Reply #6 on:** December 28, 2001, 12:55:00 AM »

P-38 is an awesome plane, but you have to be an awesome pilot.
Its not like the Jug, that no matter how good a pilot you are, it will still be a toejam plane.
the P-38 is great in the hands of a good pilot, better than a pony, typhoon, hellcat, or corsair, imo.

batdog · « **Reply #7 on:** December 28, 2001, 07:55:00 AM »

Well I have replys from 3 of the most well known 38 sticks in AH and certainly some of the best if not the best. I've several members of my squad who have flown it this tour and a couple who fly it alot regardless. They do VERY well in it. I think you can safely say the SA is a big deal in a 38..more so than several other planes. This is prob why I had such a rough time in it earlier and still do now and then. By SA I dont just mean knowing whats around you but also understanding how YOUR plane stacks up vrs others. I mean if you decide to turn w/a brown colored spitfire dont be surprised when you go boom.

More comments,ideas?

xBAT

pimpjoe · « **Reply #8 on:** December 28, 2001, 08:33:00 AM »

i do horrible in the p38...but i try real hard

the only conflicts i run into with it are the nose guns. i cant hit watermelon unless its a flat shot. snapshots are almost impossible for me in this plane

batdog · « **Reply #9 on:** December 28, 2001, 08:47:00 AM »

I think the nose guns are abit wierd feeling at first. But after you fly it abit you seem to pick up on it. Snap shots seem abit harder in it but then again my gunnery skills arent all that. They seem to pack a good punch though if and when you get a good hit in, even w/out the one hispano.

xBAT

P.S. Your 38 flying seems fine to me. You've 20 more kills than deaths in it. I think most have a hard time breaking even in it.

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Manxer · « **Reply #10 on:** December 28, 2001, 10:14:00 AM »

I find the 38 now annoyingly durable (being a P51 driver mainly). I don't find I have much problem turnfighting them (except for the excessive ammo consumption) until they drag me to their friends though (which is what happens when you spend 10 minutes pumping ammo into them), or flail the stick so that I plow into them.

On the lighter side, I do enjoy the odd jaunt in a 38. However, it dosen't seem to enjoy me flying it.

Tac · « **Reply #11 on:** December 28, 2001, 12:09:00 PM »

Manxer, the P-51 was the least durable of any allied fighter.

Only a jug or a bomber would be able to take something like this and come home. A p51 hit like this would be a splat over the Ruhr.

In my opinion, the 38 now is modeled just about right on its damage. You can hit a 109 or a p47 or a spitfire with the 38's NOSE guns in the fuselage and it will still take a good hose to bring them down. Same with a pony. And its the same with the 38. The reason why the 38 seems so durable is because it doesnt have flimsy wing to snap off easily as other fighters have...because the 38 IS a wing with 2 tails.

batdog · « **Reply #12 on:** December 28, 2001, 01:26:00 PM »

Well the improved durablity had made all the difference in the P-38 to me. Its on par w/history I think now. I bet several die hard 38 sticks (TAC,Fester,etc)who have endured the 38 thoughout its AH path will testify about how frustratingly easy it was to kill in earlier versions. The most novice stick could just get a couple of pings in often and see the 38 lose its tail and fall back-ass-wards to earth. Even those whom seemed to dislike the allied plane set would comment on this at times. HiTech,Pyro and crew corrected this in the last version

xBAT

gripen · « **Reply #13 on:** December 28, 2001, 01:26:00 PM »

Hm... there was a USAF comparison on vulnerability of their fighters based on statistics and interviews of the pilots. Results were something like that the P-47 was the best and the P-38 and P-51 were about equall. Japanese rated the P-38 as most vulnerable and the F4U as most difficult to shoot down.

gripen

batdog · « **Reply #14 on:** December 28, 2001, 02:38:00 PM »

Hehe... the Japanese rated the 38 as the most vunerable? For some reason that seems wierd considering how well the 38 seemed to do vrs their plane set. Then again you have to look at what its competing against as well I quess.

The 38 in AH isnt as tough as the f4u or the 47. It does lose more parts than it use to though... ie when its hit it doesnt lose the rear end section 80 percent of the time.

xBAT

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