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Offline Krusty

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hm....
« on: December 04, 2009, 10:49:43 PM »
screwing with wind so it's 50mph alternating N and S every 2K didn't stop the allies from coming into the target with 10 boxes of 22k B17s, and over a dozen tempests at 26-28k, and over a dozen p51Ds equally high...


Try a down draft next time?

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AND get rid of the alt-monkey inducing air spawns, if they were the culprit.

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Re: hm....
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 12:29:44 AM »
No alt cap so I don't want a down draft.
Just said strong gusty winds above 21k.
Will be keeping the alt monkey air spawns as it aids the bombers to reach their targets within 60 minutes at a reasonable alt.
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Re: hm....
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 01:25:22 AM »
We were trying to climb to altitude to intercept a group of 30k P-51s and the instant we hit the wind layer we stalled out. And I mean it was like we flew into a brick wall. Bam! *STALL HORN*

The Axis planes in this setup struggle to get to that altitude as it is, wind like this is just going to make it even rougher....
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Re: hm....
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 01:51:15 AM »
We were trying to climb to altitude to intercept a group of 30k P-51s and the instant we hit the wind layer we stalled out. And I mean it was like we flew into a brick wall. Bam! *STALL HORN*

The Axis planes in this setup struggle to get to that altitude as it is, wind like this is just going to make it even rougher....



We never notice anything with the wind in the P-51.  What where you guys flying?
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Re: hm....
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 02:00:02 AM »
our group was in k4s at 30k and didnt have to bad of a problem
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Re: hm....
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2009, 03:04:54 AM »
Even in still air, K4s struggle at 30k.. Doras can barely fly (can't make even a gentle wing bank without losing tons of alt)

The wind only aggravated the already-underdog defenders.

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Re: hm....
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2009, 04:00:29 AM »
Were bombers at that level able to perform?

If so, what's the problem?

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Re: hm....
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2009, 04:20:30 AM »
We were Spit XIVs and I ordered everyone below 28k because of the wind and then we ran into 31k G14s.
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Re: hm....
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2009, 06:19:32 AM »
We were Spit XIVs and I ordered everyone below 28k because of the wind and then we ran into 31k G14s.
All the German stuff was above my 51. Wine ignored.....yet again.
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Re: hm....
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2009, 06:20:34 AM »
and over a dozen tempests at 26-28k

9 temps.

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Re: hm....
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2009, 08:51:12 AM »
Even in still air, K4s struggle at 30k.. Doras can barely fly (can't make even a gentle wing bank without losing tons of alt)

The wind only aggravated the already-underdog defenders.

hhmmmm......strange - Dora's and K's were operational to 39k or there abouts - A8's would certainly start to wallow around 30-33k but usable if handled lightly on the controls. The 109K's (if properly modeled) shouldl eat 51's for breakfast AND lunch at 30k+ altitude. :lol

We flew K's most of the night around 28-35k without much prob - a wind shear as we went through 30k but not too bad once we knew about it. For once it was nice to fly at realistic altitudes.

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Re: hm....
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2009, 09:12:50 AM »
Tempests at 26k?  You should thank them because that's a waste of the plane's potential.



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Re: hm....
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2009, 10:11:43 AM »
   When we started last night I was made aware of the 20k or so winds. I said I was going to go up past and see just how bad they were. We always seem to get bounced by higher planes when theres any form of alt restriction or warning. So up we went. It was 25k before I felt any affect. It did a odd shakey thing as the wind directions changed(according to Blbird) but that was it. I will take a little of that if it means we as as high or higher than them.

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Re: hm....
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2009, 11:39:35 AM »
Even in still air, K4s struggle at 30k.. Doras can barely fly (can't make even a gentle wing bank without losing tons of alt)


I disagree with this statement. I learned in Red Storm Kruppe Steal that the K4s do just fine up at 30K.
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Re: hm....
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2009, 11:44:10 AM »
I was able to wep through most of the wind shear layers at 150 to 200mph...pretty bad between 26k to 30k had to be careful...if you got hit by one of the cross gusts it could flip you over and put you into a dead stall. Flying a K4 I got up to 38k looking for bombers over Eisenach and once I got over 30k there was no crosswind. Speaking of which, did bombers hit Eisenach and what alt were they flying at? I saw a large portion of the eastern side of the city destroyed but nobody saw any planes in the area.

The worst thing that happened with the wind was getting jumped by P51s at 28k and having to fight the cross winds while maneuvering...that was a nail biter.  :uhoh
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