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Offline bcadoo

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Auto Puffy Ack Question
« on: December 05, 2009, 12:15:39 AM »
Ok.  The way I understand that the puffy ack works is that it is randomly generated in a box around your aircraft.  I can see puffy ack going after other aircraft around the city and the cv's.

So the question is:  Can you be damaged by the puffy ack going after another aircraft?  Is it better to fly a looser formation when going through puffy ack or is it just eye candy and the only puffy ack you have to worry about is your 'own'?
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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 04:00:21 AM »
if ur flying next to the plane that is being targeted and ur in the box as well then there is a chance u will get hit.

dont forget the fuses are proximity type so if the shell misses its intended target by a big enough distance NOT to detonate the shell then it
keeps going till it does reach a target (possable you!!) or comes back down to earth/sea.
if ur in the way of the shell to its intended target u get hit. this can be seen when ur in 5" shooting at cons about 3-4k when the furballing with friendlies, some time ur ack will detonate at the friendly not the con.

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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 05:04:51 AM »
if ur flying next to the plane that is being targeted and ur in the box as well then there is a chance u will get hit.

dont forget the fuses are proximity type so if the shell misses its intended target by a big enough distance NOT to detonate the shell then it
keeps going till it does reach a target (possable you!!) or comes back down to earth/sea.
if ur in the way of the shell to its intended target u get hit. this can be seen when ur in 5" shooting at cons about 3-4k when the furballing with friendlies, some time ur ack will detonate at the friendly not the con.

There is mixed, misleading information here. The only proximity fuses in game are from 5 inch shells that are fired by a player. Auto puffy ack is not proximity based, it is in fact exactly as the OP described, a "box" around your plane.

Manned 5 inch shells will *detonate* upon proximity to a friendly, but will not cause damage to said friendly.

If you, as a friendly air asset to auto puffy ack, are reasonably close to an enemy air target, it IS possible to be killed by your "own" puffy ack. Again, not by your owned manned guns, but your own auto ack.

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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 05:36:43 AM »
i thought auto ack was proximity as well. thanks for the correction.

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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2009, 05:58:59 AM »
It's also worth noting that puffy ack can also damage friendly units if they are flying within that "box".
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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2009, 06:55:28 AM »
puffy ack in this game is an absolute joke, people parking the cv right off field go over 3k and your a dead man I've had my engine killed from the first shot more times than I haven't, that is in a fight if I 'break' my 3k limit even for a spilt second blam engine out or if you clip the edge of the puffy limit around the cv bam first hit engine out or oil coolant pw etc basically something that makes your 10 minute transit to the fight a complete waste of time you may as well bail and start again. Not to mention coming back from afk to find your almost in outer space with puffy ack accurately knocking the hell out of you whats the limit on how high this stuff can fire??  :lol

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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2009, 07:03:56 AM »
Not to mention coming back from afk to find your almost in outer space with puffy ack accurately knocking the hell out of you whats the limit on how high this stuff can fire??  :lol

A real life example: The 8,8 Flak 41 had an effective ceiling of ~ 37k, max alt was ~47k, the 12,8 Flak 40 similar limits.
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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2009, 07:40:42 AM »
A real life example: The 8,8 Flak 41 had an effective ceiling of ~ 37k, max alt was ~47k, the 12,8 Flak 40 similar limits.

If we are talking 'real life' here can you tell me if it is even possible to for someone to actually see someone at that range?? let alone effectively target them??? Some of the distances you are talking about are in excess of 8 miles!  :eek:

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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2009, 07:42:50 AM »
If we are talking 'real life' here can you tell me if it is even possible to for someone to actually see someone at that range?? let alone effectively target them??? Some of the distances you are talking about are in excess of 8 miles!  :eek:

For the most part of the war, German AA fire was radar guided.
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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2009, 07:50:58 AM »
For the most part of the war, German AA fire was radar guided.

And if the German AA had the same kind of long range accuracy as HTCs puffy ack there wouldn't have been a bomb dropped on Berlin!  :lol Unless it was accompanied by a flaming b-17  :eek:

 

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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2009, 08:30:56 AM »
And if the German AA had the same kind of long range accuracy as HTCs puffy ack there wouldn't have been a bomb dropped on Berlin!  :lol Unless it was accompanied by a flaming b-17  :eek:

 

Are you trying to say puffy ack was not accurate and deadly in WWII?
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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2009, 08:37:00 AM »
Are you trying to say puffy ack was not accurate and deadly in WWII?

Clearly not accurate or deadly enough otherwise they wouldn't have bothered bombing places because all the bombers/escorts would simply have been shot down without the need to ever send a figher up after them!!    :lol

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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2009, 08:43:01 AM »
Clearly not accurate or deadly enough otherwise they wouldn't have bothered bombing places because all the bombers/escorts would simply have been shot down without the need to ever send a figher up after them!!    :lol

It's not that bad. I have been flying 3 sorties now against the new strats and haven't lost a single bomber yet due to ack.
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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2009, 08:45:38 AM »
It's not that bad. I have been flying 3 sorties now against the new strats and haven't lost a single bomber yet due to ack.

You should join me for a few flights!!  :lol I can't believe I'm that unlucky  :noid

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Re: Auto Puffy Ack Question
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2009, 09:12:43 AM »
Clearly not accurate or deadly enough otherwise they wouldn't have bothered bombing places because all the bombers/escorts would simply have been shot down without the need to ever send a figher up after them!!    :lol

You should read a book about the Eighth Air Force someday.  Might change your opinion on flak.
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