Bf109 Flap Speed...

[Wilbus]

I think it is wrong. If I am not misstaking, HTC has modelled the flap speed of the 109's we have like the flap speed the Bf109 E had with full flaps Extended. I have the manual for the E version, together with the RAF evalutaion of the E-4 (captured plane). Max permited speed with flaps fully deployed was 250Km/h that is 156.25Mp/h. I don't know the speed for 1 notch though  

Now, the 109 G2 manual (together with a few other 109 manuals) can be found on www.bf109.com.  Download the 109 G2 manual and scroll to where you find max speed with 1 notch of flap. The max speed shows up to be 350Km/h, that is 218.75Mp/h. 109 speed in AH for 1 notch flap is about 170Mph so the difference is nearly 50Mp/h.
This can make a huge difference in a dogfight, specially since you're usually never slow enough to get 1 notch out.

HTC, please look into it.

190 SEEMS to be wrong aswell but since I don't have a manual for the 190 I can't prove it... yet. So please, if anyone have info on 190 flap speed etc could you post it or send link?  

Thanks.

[Raubvogel]

I only have the Ta152 manual.

[GRUNHERZ]

Pyro or HT now would be a good time to say:

"We will look into it".    

[Urchin]

Perhaps it would also be a good time to say "are you trying to get banned to?"...

[GRUNHERZ]

LOL

Some people are so fediddlein humorless these days....

[Wilbus]

Raub, TA152 manual in book form of Digital? Can I have it if in digital, otherwise, can I have the ISBN?  

[wells]

Wilbus, go here
 http://www.allaboutwarfare.com/download.php?op=mydown&did=7

[Seeker]

Wilbus,
I've got a K4 manual (in German)as a PDF, what's your Email?

[ 01-01-2002: Message edited by: Seeker ]

[Wilbus]

It's not the full Emil manual, one part is with the figures and text written during the war by the RAF test pilots, there is a german document in it (translated) about the 109 T (basicly an E with tailhook), there are allso some techincal notes about the G2 but just a few pages. Allso, an interesting thing is that the RAF compare the E4 with the Spit Mk1 and the results are in the book, roll speed etc.

The test results were written in English, the manual have been translated to English so it's all in English.

There is a web address on the back of the book.
 www.crecy.co.uk

Seeker, got the K4 manual in Book or digital?
I know the digital can be found at bf109.com aswell but my german is rusty  

[ 01-02-2002: Message edited by: Wilbus ]

[Wilbus]

Wohow! Thanks Wells  

[Seeker]

Wilbus, Digital (pdf is adobe acrobat's file format).

I've got what looks to be a full pilot's manual in German (which I can't read!) in the K4, and a guide to cockpit layout in English.

I've also got the Ta 152 manual (German), the Me 262 manual (English, written in America from captured test machines post war, I think) and the Tempest manual (English).

All digital (pdf).

Want them?

(BTW; the "T" had more than just tail hook changes. I think it had wing profile and span changes to to "navalise" it, which would be significant in this discusion of stall/flap speeds)

[ 01-02-2002: Message edited by: Seeker ]

[Wilbus]

Rgr Seeker, don't know much about the T my self, know it was suposed to serve on the carrier but was used from land once the Graf was scraped, all info and help about it welcome  

I would LOVE those Manuals!!

if you care to send them to my mail it is either wilbus@swipnet.se or rasmus@avita.se

Would be wounderfull to have!

Thanks  

[Seeker]

OTW to the swipenet address.

Which you should check soon, mucho megabytes!  

[Wilbus]

*Jumping up and down with excitement*

[Teforto]

Seeker, may I get the K4 manual too?
Teforto@gmx.de