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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #135 on: December 14, 2009, 08:49:32 PM »
Take a look at Me163 statistics over the last few tours if you want to be bludgeoned by fact.

The masses will fly the easiest aircrafts that will maximize kills.  Is that the "best product"?  No, it's the easiest product.  This tour, the P51D has ~12,500 Kills.  The Ta152 has 1,400 kills.  Last tour the P51D had 10 times as many kills.  You argue the Ta152 is a better aircraft and I agree, but why don't the masses 'realize' this?  I'm sure mostly everybody has flown a Ta152 at least once to see what all the fuss was about.  They probably realized quickly that the plane is unbalanced, can't roll, goes into nasty tail spins, has an incredibly unstable gun platform making it difficult to line up a shot and even when they do get the guns lined up, the pesky ballistics make it near impossible to even connect.  They then go back to their comfort zone planes which are the most popular rides in the game.  They'd rather fly the easy stuff than learn the hard stuff and suck for a while, only to be better in the end.  That's the way I have observed it and the stats don't lie.

I don't think I've ever flown the 152.  I may have I suppose, by accident maybe?  It has nothing to do with the flight model, ballistics, how hard it is, yada, yada, yada.  I didn't even know it existed prior to playing this game.  Now, knowing that it exists, I still have not had my interest piqued by it.  I don't fly it because (like the other german planes) it's goofy-lookin'.  I've never realized there was any "fuss" about the 152.  Now, realizing I may have missed something exciting, I still have no interest in it.

I have flown the 163 and 262 a few times.  Not too much, but some.  My kill stats in those two planes have nothing to do with my squad affiliation.  I've not found the 163 to be difficult to get kills in.

I fly the airplane that was my favorite as a kid, and still continues to be today, mainly due to its looks.  Performance is a vastly less-important factor to me.  As a youngster, we never even dreamed of internet, or internet flight combat simulators.  Choosing my favorite plane had nothing to do with how easy it would be for me to get kills in in the MA.
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #136 on: December 14, 2009, 08:56:29 PM »
I don't fly it because (like the other german planes) it's goofy-lookin'.
Hey now, german Iron are the bad boy rides becuase they are mean looking, in and out




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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #137 on: December 14, 2009, 09:02:08 PM »
Hey now, german Iron are the bad boy rides because they are mean looking, in and out




go back to flying that easy mode Hog :D :salute

Lol, "mean" looking??  Please...  I think I even saw one with some goofy lookin' snorkel doo-hickey sticking out of it...  

My guess is they were designed that way as a sort of camouflage.  They figured nobody would take them seriously in those ridiculous looking planes until it was too late.  Judging by the early success of their campaign, they probably succeeded.

Now their U-boats on the other hand, are beautiful, and I think can out-turn the 109's. 
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #138 on: December 14, 2009, 09:07:08 PM »
Oh come on the hog looks like someone took a tube and stuck bent up wings on it.

German aircraft are sexily curvy and aggressively angular at the same time. It's ridiculous.

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #139 on: December 14, 2009, 09:08:08 PM »
German aircraft are ridiculous.

Agreed!

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #140 on: December 14, 2009, 09:08:31 PM »
I don't think I've ever flown the 152.  I may have I suppose, by accident maybe?  It has nothing to do with the flight model, ballistics, how hard it is, yada, yada, yada.  I didn't even know it existed prior to playing this game.  Now, knowing that it exists, I still have not had my interest piqued by it.  I don't fly it because (like the other german planes) it's goofy-lookin'.  I've never realized there was any "fuss" about the 152.  Now, realizing I may have missed something exciting, I still have no interest in it.

I have flown the 163 and 262 a few times.  Not too much, but some.  My kill stats in those two planes have nothing to do with my squad affiliation.  I've not found the 163 to be difficult to get kills in.

I fly the airplane that was my favorite as a kid, and still continues to be today, mainly due to its looks.  Performance is a vastly less-important factor to me.  As a youngster, we never even dreamed of internet, or internet flight combat simulators.  Choosing my favorite plane had nothing to do with how easy it would be for me to get kills in in the MA.

You aren't part of the 'masses' I refer to MtnMan.  

I'm sure every single Spit16 pilot can justify why they fly the plane.  When they were very young they received a Spit16 model from a sick uncle and it has stuck ever since.  It surely has nothing to do with the plane's in game specs.   :lol

I find is amusing when I kill a P51D pilot a few times, and he comes back in a Ta152 only to stall out and crash and hop back in the Mustang.   :lol

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #142 on: December 14, 2009, 09:10:49 PM »
Lol, "mean" looking??  Please...  I think I even saw one with some goofy lookin' snorkel doo-hickey sticking out of it...  

My guess is they were designed that way as a sort of camouflage.  They figured nobody would take them seriously in those ridiculous looking planes until it was too late.  Judging by the early success of their campaign, they probably succeeded.

Now their U-boats on the other hand, are beautiful, and I think can out-turn the 109's. 

The corsairs are the clown planes with their gear and flap tricks and funny looking bent wings.
The 109s are the sexiest planes in the game!
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #143 on: December 14, 2009, 09:13:02 PM »
I find is amusing when I kill a P51D pilot a few times, and he comes back in a Ta152 only to stall out and crash and hop back in the Mustang.   :lol

Lol, I get the same thing with F4U's!  I love that!  

Spits and Hurris and zero's and...  then they hop in an F4U to teach me a lesson!

I was being tongue-in-cheek with you Grizz!   :D

BTW, never heard of the Spit16 prior to AH either...  :confused:
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #144 on: December 14, 2009, 09:14:34 PM »
The 109s are the sexiest planes in the game!

Ever see the study where people pair up with similar-looking people, pets, etc?  I'm not surprised you find the 109 so appealing...


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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #145 on: December 14, 2009, 09:21:15 PM »
Someone needs to put MtnMan in his place...........real men fly luft!!! :D
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #146 on: December 14, 2009, 09:24:06 PM »
It depends on how the pilot is flying. 

It takes skill to survive in a multi-plane enviroment just as it takes skill to win in a 1 on 1.

But..

Take the timid picker type who is always landing 3-5 kills.  When you force a 1 on 1 on them they tend to die quick.  Anybody can fly like a weenie and land 3-5 kills every hop.



Sounds like a bunch of guys I used to "fly" with..... could drop a few names..... I agree with the 1v1!  I need a lots of improvement in the 1v1 against the veteran guys here.

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #147 on: December 14, 2009, 09:25:00 PM »
After reading this entire thread...I have determained that I am even worst than I thought.

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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #148 on: December 14, 2009, 09:25:48 PM »

Sounds like a bunch of guys I used to "fly" with..... could drop a few names..... I agree with the 1v1!  I need a lots of improvement in the 1v1 against the veteran guys here.
Dude ask the good sticks to the DA for some fun 1v1s, if they dont go smack talk them into going :D :salute
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Re: What proves more skill, a one on one, or kills?
« Reply #149 on: December 14, 2009, 09:26:29 PM »
You aren't part of the 'masses' I refer to MtnMan.  
I find is amusing when I kill a P51D pilot a few times, and he comes back in a Ta152 only to stall out and crash and hop back in the Mustang.   :lol


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