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Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« on: December 13, 2009, 12:44:47 AM »
I want the reflected light that reflects in the windshield of the cockpit though it seems to have gone out to last year's wishlist.

If the appearance of the pilot himself and the pilot's expression are difficult, I want reflecting of internal meters etc.
It becomes difficult to understand to which to turn with TrackIR because there is no window frame in the complete, transparent back, and the an optical illusion caused and AcesHigh today crashes when it becomes P51D though the direction of the glance is ..model with a lot of 0 games or window frames.. comprehensible.

It can be prevented if there is reflecting of the reflected light, and externals might be additionally good-looking.

Simplicity.
When express the reflected light
The optical illusion with TrackIR is not caused easily.
The reflected light is good-looking.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 01:05:42 AM by toki »
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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2009, 01:02:20 AM »
I want the reflected light that reflects in the windshield of the cockpit though it seems to have gone out to last year's wishlist.

If the appearance of the pilot himself and the pilot's expression are difficult, I want reflecting of internal meters etc.
It becomes difficult to understand to which to turn with TrackIR because there is no window frame in the complete, transparent back, and the looking-mistake is caused and AcesHigh today crashes when it becomes P51D though the direction of the glance is ..model with a lot of 0 games or window frames.. comprehensible.

It can be prevented if there is reflecting of the reflected light, and externals might be additionally good-looking.

Simplicity.
When express the reflected light
The looking-mistake with TrackIR is not caused easily.
The reflected light is good-looking.

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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2009, 01:04:42 AM »
So let me get this straight.........


You are wishing for a better video card?

My sunlight is pretty darn real, thank you very much.  And if you don't agree........

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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2009, 01:08:35 AM »
You are wishing for a better video card?
It was expressible in the game Migs alley.
If HTC has the picture power, it is likely to be able to draw by one texture.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 01:11:05 AM by toki »
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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2009, 01:11:25 AM »
You can ask for a new video card in any language you want my fellow flyer!!!   :salute

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I actually do understand where you're coming from but I think that would be an FPS killer for most, if not all people.  The reflections would need to be modeled to move in realtime. 
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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2009, 02:53:20 AM »
 :huh I don't understand a word of it except for the title...I get reflections from the sun all the time in my cockpit...maybe you don't have something turned on?  :headscratch:
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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2009, 03:04:01 AM »
I'm thinking Toki is wanting the glass on the cockpits to reflect sunlight - which would be cool looking, but possibly framerate killing.

The current glass is completely transparent, well, till you get hit in the engine anyway - with no other interaction in the game.


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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2009, 04:39:54 AM »
I'm thinking Toki is wanting the glass on the cockpits to reflect sunlight
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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2009, 05:57:46 AM »
would be cool to see..... but probably a FPS killer, would like to listen to the programmers about it.


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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2009, 09:21:40 AM »
Toki is from Japan and uses a translator to post his post seeing he doesn't do English very well. Have a little class for our NON english speaking players.

HTC has done a great job of adding the reflections in the water. I think Toki is asking for it to be moved to the windows in the planes as well. I'm sure it would really look cool to catch site of the pilots reflection in the glass as you sweep into a turn. Seeing I'm not a programmer I don't know how much of a hit it would be, but seeing its one of the things that you are able to turn off I would think it could really hurt your FR.

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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2009, 10:11:54 AM »
Toki is from Japan and uses a translator to post his post seeing he doesn't do English very well. Have a little class for our NON english speaking players.
Fugitive...perhaps if Toki's profile info reflected the Location: Japan more people would be a little more inclined to try and make better sense of the jumbled translation. Fact is the first post is a bit difficult to comprehend.

I can only imagine reflective glass in AH...if I remember correctly, in Mig Alley the pilot helmet had a tinted visor, which made it possible to see sun glare on the canopy and the appearance of translucent instrument panel reflections on the inside of the canopy if the sun was in the right position to produce the reflection. If those are the effects Toki is requesting, the only thing that would be possible without some heavy variable programming and a possible frame rate hit is the sun reflection off the canopy of another plane (a sprite). You would have to actually render a full 3D pilot in the cockpit first...then you would have to predict the direction and angle of the sun...then guess what reflection(s) would be possible on what area of the canopy based on the size and shape of the canopy...then determine whether it would be a full or partial reflection based on the angle and direction of the sun...then render it as a dynamic transparent overlay that changed as various changes occurred. It would have to be something that could be turned on/off depending on player preference since not only would it cause a frame rate hit, it could interfere with visibility since we don't have the ability to refocus our virtual pilots vision to specific points.

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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2009, 10:43:07 AM »
I am not sure what you are asking for.

Do you mean when looking at a different plane from the outside?

Or looking at your plane from the inside? If so light does not reflect on the window when you are on the far side. I think what you may be asking for is simply marks on the canopy so you get a feel for what direction you are looking. If so , this would be a very extreme frame rate hitter for many conditions because you are so close to the transparency you have to fill the entire screen 1 extra time.

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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2009, 11:45:05 AM »
I'm thinking the wish is to see cockpit reflections on the inside of the canopy.  I agree that this would be cool, but also agree it would be a framerate killer.  Here's a shot from Falcon 4.0 that I found as an example:

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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2009, 11:52:59 AM »
I'm thinking the wish is to see cockpit reflections on the inside of the canopy.  I agree that this would be cool, but also agree it would be a framerate killer.  Here's a shot from Falcon 4.0 that I found as an example:

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I highly doubt that that would be a framerate killer as it looks like it's just a semitransparent texture laid over the canopy. Also isn't that game like 10 years old?

Also I realize that I'm no programmer, but as soon as anyone suggests anything graphics related people flip, and it gets pretty silly. Seriously I'm quite sure that your video card and/or RAM can handle loading another ~500kb .bmp file to play the game.
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Re: Reflected light that reflects in windshield of cockpit
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2009, 11:57:18 AM »
Your eyes see semi-transparent.......  But sadly, that isn't what the video card sees. FRAME RATE KILLER.... I'd bet your life on that.

I highly doubt that that would be a framerate killer as it looks like it's just a semitransparent texture laid over the canopy. Also isn't that game like 10 years old?


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