Author Topic: fire extinguishers (Read 934 times)

Nefarious · « **on:** January 08, 2002, 03:59:00 PM »

Most aircraft had them, and believe it or not so did the model of the zero we have in the game the A6M5B

I think this is a must. Many o' times in my "miata of the sky" (zero) Ive been struck on my fuel tanks bursting into flames, thier has been times where i have continued to fight on fire and even get a kill while on fire!

This would be an awesome feature especially for the heavy multiple engine planes we have, it would also help framerates by eliminating the smoke trails from burning engines.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #1 on:** January 08, 2002, 04:03:00 PM »

The fire extinguisher in the cockpit was to put out cockpit fires to prevent the pilot from being turned into a juicy flame broiled hundred pounder- not to put out fires outside of the cockpit. It was bail out time if that happened.
-SW

Nefarious · « **Reply #2 on:** January 08, 2002, 04:13:00 PM »

the zekes fire extinguishers were around the fuel tanks to prevent from detonation at least thats what I got the impression from A6M Zero in action, and Clash of Wings-WWII in the air.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #3 on:** January 08, 2002, 04:15:00 PM »

I thought you were talking about the in-cockpit extinguisher. My mistake.
-SW

fdiron · « **Reply #4 on:** January 08, 2002, 04:24:00 PM »

I read that B17 pilots used to dive their bombers when they caught on fire. If an airspeed above 300mph could be maintained, the fire could sometimes be extinguished. In the movie "Memphis Belle" (the one made in the 90s), it shows a B17 doing just that.

Robert Johnson's p47 caught on fire in one battle and he dove his aircraft in an attempt to kill himself (he was trapped in the cockpit). Fortunately the fire was put out by the dive and flew home.

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #5 on:** January 08, 2002, 11:15:00 PM »

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Originally posted by fdiron:
Robert Johnson's p47 caught on fire in one battle and he dove his aircraft in an attempt to kill himself (he was trapped in the cockpit).

ROFL!

bolillo_loco · « **Reply #6 on:** January 09, 2002, 12:08:00 AM »

more on the diving a/c to put out fires, I have seen this in movies also. Is this hollywood or what?

best scene of a/c putting out fires was in the movie always when the one plane dove on the other, dropped its load of fire extinguishing fluid onto the other a/c that was on fire, putting it out hehehe man talk about hollywood.

Beefcake · « **Reply #7 on:** January 09, 2002, 01:54:00 AM »

bolillo_loco, the movie your are thinking about is called "Always". For those of you who don't know, Always is a movie (or the 1st half anyway) is about Firefighter Air Tanker Pilots, flying refited WWII B26s and PBY-5 Catalina's. In one shot the PBY (pilot played by John Goodman) strikes a tree and one engine catches on fire. The B26 (pilot played by Richard Dryfus) dives in on the buring PBY and dump's his load of fire retardent on the plane, putting out the fire. That would be so cool to do in AH. hehe

fdiron · « **Reply #8 on:** January 09, 2002, 02:31:00 AM »

Then the B26 exploded because one of its engines was on fire.

Frenchy, the reason Johnson did that was because he didnt want to burn alive. Can't blame him myself.

Oldman731 · « **Reply #9 on:** January 09, 2002, 07:56:00 AM »

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Originally posted by fdiron:
Frenchy, the reason Johnson did that was because he didnt want to burn alive. Can't blame him myself.

Where did you guys get this suicide-plunge notion? Certainly not from Johnson's account.

- oldman

Citabria · « **Reply #10 on:** January 09, 2002, 08:31:00 AM »

many ww1 pilots brought a pistol with them in case of fire... they would shoot themselves instad of burning to death.

parachutes were considered to be to heavy to bring along, so very few used them.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #11 on:** January 09, 2002, 08:32:00 AM »

Pistols were standard issue for pilots, were they not?

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #12 on:** January 09, 2002, 08:53:00 AM »

WWI pilots would jump out of their aircraft rather than burn to death- not shoot themselves. Almost all pilots brought pistols with them in case both their guns jammed, they could always holster the pistol in hopes of a lucky shot. Frank Luke had two pistols with him when he was engaged by more enemies than he could handle and began firing back at them. His last flight he had the same two pistols when he was busting balloons and was damaged. He set down inside German lines and shot at a German infantry group coming to capture him.

Germany had parachutes in 1918, and Voss used one once. They weren't issued to RAF(what it was in 1918, was RNAS and RAC before) or French Air Service because the superiors were afraid the pilots would rather abandon the plane (and thus a lot of money) rather than fight it out and return to base.
-SW

Kratzer · « **Reply #13 on:** January 09, 2002, 11:08:00 AM »

Frenchy, surely *you* have read Johnson's book? The punishment that Jug took was mind boggling.

AKSWulfe · « **Reply #14 on:** January 09, 2002, 11:12:00 AM »

That particular account is in another book I have at home with engagements from the first days of air combat to today... can't remember the name right now, but it was some 10 or so 20mm and 50+ 13mm that hit the jug wasn't it?
-SW