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Offline kamori

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Ramming and Consequences?
« on: December 15, 2009, 08:40:51 AM »
Heres the idea. Why not have it so when a person get a YOU COLLIDED WITH or whatever it says. That person sits in the tower (cannot up) for a few minutes. I think it would slow down the pourposeful rams. If you disagree consider why we have ENY.

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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 08:46:36 AM »
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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 08:58:02 AM »
If you get the YOU collided message you collided, not the other guy. If you get the xxxx collided with you then it could have merit. On the other hand HTC isn't going to penalize people for ramming unless it become the move that surplants the HO.

What does the ENY have to do with ramming? ENY is abalancing tool used to cut back the uber equipment from the side that has better numbers.

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 09:36:24 AM »
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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 09:58:03 AM »
Heres the idea. Why not have it so when a person get a YOU COLLIDED WITH or whatever it says. That person sits in the tower (cannot up) for a few minutes. I think it would slow down the pourposeful rams. If you disagree consider why we have ENY.

KAM

That does not happen.  Collisions were put in the game so that people would not intentionally fly through planes.  As I have been told by the experts, it is working and therefore there is no way anyone is causing a collision intentionaly  :rofl
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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 04:35:45 PM »
Do you really think that people collide on purpose?   I have never experienced that myself..... I have Seen ( i am talking about visually see them  come thru my plane)collision's that were not detected on my end but kill the other player..... I would like to know how long of lag the computer waits for before it decides who get the collision.


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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 05:06:14 PM »
That does not happen.  Collisions were put in the game so that people would not intentionally fly through planes.  As I have been told by the experts, it is working and therefore there is no way anyone is causing a collision intentional  :rofl

Too funny  They do happen and many times one gets no damage and the other goes down or is forced to end sortie..Very true


What does the ENY have to do with ramming? ENY is a balancing tool used to cut back the uber equipment from the side that has better numbers.

ENY is a fairness tool...so, This idea is one also. Its coming more prevalent that others are not avoiding the collision weather in a scissors or a head on pass and other maneuvers. I would like to see people think more about their ACM and getting the other guy dead by their skill and NOT by them ramming just to end the fight. The game as a whole is getting worse as the years go by. There used to be some standards when I got into the game 7 - 8 years ago. If a collision happened MOST would apologize and feel bad. Now its a tactic. I view it as a degradation of the community.

I know there's a quote out there about this but all in all it comes down to this.  "Peoples behavior unchecked without consequences evolves into Kaos"

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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 05:07:58 PM »
If you can prove it happens, we'll consider it.

Please show me film where someone intentionally was able to run into the other guy and cause damage to that plane.

Everything I've ever seen shows the guy trying to ram dieing for no or little effect.

But hey, please, prove me wrong.

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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 05:14:38 PM »
Too funny  They do happen and many times one gets no damage and the other goes down or is forced to end sortie..Very true

Almost all those collisions that are called "intentional rams" - aren't.

It's even very hard against a non- maneuvering bomber, but against a moving fighter it's almost impossible - you have to hit HIS plane on HIS screen, but you don't know the exact position of his and your own plane on his screen.

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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 05:15:05 PM »
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 Its coming more prevalent that others are not avoiding the collision weather in a scissors or a head on pass and other maneuvers.



So the other guy is supposed to avoid the collision and give you turning room?
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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 05:16:41 PM »
If you can prove it happens, we'll consider it.

Please show me film where someone intentionally was able to run into the other guy and cause damage to that plane.

Everything I've ever seen shows the guy trying to ram dieing for no or little effect.

But hey, please, prove me wrong.


Ill start running film more.  Heres the Real point. If pilots fly with a fear of connecting with another aircraft then it will improve the skill level of the pilot. We would be conscious of the other guy and ourselves in as to change the ACM for better position. Time after time I either don't shoot or avoid a collision in preference of colliding. The best example I have of this is in the DA. Most of the time collisions are avoided as to not ruin the fight and if they happen its apologies all the way. I don't care about the apologies its more about the improvement this idea could bring.

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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 05:18:28 PM »
So the other guy is supposed to avoid the collision and give you turning room?

If pilots fly with a fear of connecting with another aircraft then it will improve the skill level of the pilot. We would be conscious of the other guy and ourselves in as to change the ACM for better position.

KAM

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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 05:19:40 PM »
Heres the idea. Why not have it so when a person get a YOU COLLIDED WITH or whatever it says. That person sits in the tower (cannot up) for a few minutes. I think it would slow down the pourposeful rams. If you disagree consider why we have ENY.

KAM

I don't see how disagreeing with your wish and ENY have any relation to one another.

For the record, I disagree with your wish and I think it's pointless.


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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2009, 05:20:47 PM »
Only you can prevent the collisions on your end.

There IS no ram.

Trust that, and learn to not fly "quite" so close, and you'll stop colliding.

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Re: Ramming and Consequences?
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2009, 05:21:43 PM »
Heres the idea. Why not have it so when a person get a YOU COLLIDED WITH or whatever it says. That person sits in the tower (cannot up) for a few minutes. I think it would slow down the pourposeful rams. If you disagree consider why we have ENY.

KAM

ya could just keep a safe distance.  :noid :bolt:
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