Lucas Oil

[Flench]

I just rebuilt a 4.6 L out of a 98 Ford F150 and Lucas was my break in oil . That's some good stuff !! BUT , Zmax is better !

[oakranger]

Zmax?  Is that another product you used for oil. 

[Flench]

Gas and oil .

[gyrene81]

No, I know other manufacturers make the parts that have Motorcraft stamped on 'em.  My point was just that whatever the manufacturer calls for is what I will use and that the motor oil business is so competitive that if any of the manufacturers could gain an advantage through using whatever is in Lucas Oil products, they would.  Since Ford doesn't call for Lucas Oil products, I wouldn't use them.  Kind of like "4 electrode" spark plugs--wouldn't use them either.

The oil companies are using or at least attempting to use the same technology as Lucas and the other niche market manufacturers...that's why Penzzoil and the others are producing the blends we are seeing on the shelves now. You should try the old coffee filter test on your oil of choice...under a microscope from a cheap kids chemistry set the differences in oil products are mind blowing.

You really should try the quad plugs out at the very minimum...after years of having to change standard single and double electrode plugs once every 9 months, I've been using the Bosch platinum ir fusion plugs for almost 40k miles and I haven't had to change them yet...less fouling, better gas mileage, very little core and electrode wear and consistent power.

[CAP1]

The oil companies are using or at least attempting to use the same technology as Lucas and the other niche market manufacturers...that's why Penzzoil and the others are producing the blends we are seeing on the shelves now. You should try the old coffee filter test on your oil of choice...under a microscope from a cheap kids chemistry set the differences in oil products are mind blowing.

You really should try the quad plugs out at the very minimum...after years of having to change standard single and double electrode plugs once every 9 months, I've been using the Bosch platinum ir fusion plugs for almost 40k miles and I haven't had to change them yet...less fouling, better gas mileage, very little core and electrode wear and consistent power.

bosh is the one plat. plug i hate.

they have the center electrode flush with the ceramic. this causes a misfire as soon as this electrode starts to wear.
 i've had many fords and chevys that've had this problem.

 as for changing plugs every 9 months?  my mustang got driven HARD. gamblers races on tuesdays. friday night street races. then off to the closed airport, and race on the runway till the police chased us. then off to front street...same thing...till the police chased us.
 sat. night bracket races. then more street racing. and this car was driven every single day of the year. i used champion golds in it. never had any problems. i actually picked up a tenth by putting them in.

[eagl]

I got some iridium plugs for my firebird...  They worked great, never fouled, and ought to last 100k miles at least.  Of course the engine was essentially stock, but a lot of guys who messed with their firebirds used the same plug (in a hotter or colder heat range though) and said they worked just fine for years.

If you're replacing plugs every 9 months, almost no matter what kind of plug you're using, either your motor is running poorly or you have a special application that is going to eat plugs so suck it up

[gyrene81]

Yeah Cap, the original dual electrode platninums don't perform very well once that core starts to wear...that's why I switched to the quad electrode platinum/iridium models. Pre gapped, no muss, no fuss.

I put a lot of miles on my cars...combo highway/city...through traffic jams and all...for the last 4 years it's been minimum 500 to 600 miles a week running the crap gas sold in Wisconsin...with standard plugs I would set the gap, put them in, check them every 3 months and re-gap as needed...average 9 months of use...no other plugs have been as good as the Bosch quad platinum/ir's...not even the Bosch double platinums...and I still check them every 3 months. And when I buy a car, first thing I do is toss out the dealer plugs, plug wires, filters and fluids.


Eagl...how else would a Dodge 2.0 engine run but poorly? Especially with crappy gasoline...the only engine worse was that Pontiac quad 4.

[nirvana]

Royal purple is where it's at.

[Masherbrum]

I've never used an "additive" in any engine.  

I've used Amsoil in the past and would use it again.   Royal Purple would be 2nd.

[ghi]

i use lucas and shell rotella t in my 2005 cummins isx 600 turned up to 925. i change the oil every 20,000 miles or 30 days. oil analysis shows no abnormal wear after 875,000 miles. if it works pulling 40 tons it should work great in your car.

Same here, i used it in my last truck, in engine transmission, differential,Volvo 770, Detroit D60 engine, i sold it in 2007,with 1.3 milion miles ,was never rebuilt. The truck i have now,Volvo 780, 2008 with D13 Volvo engine i can't use it, it's still in warranty and Volvo can void the warranty if something goes wrong, but it has 3 x oil filters, goes over 30k miles on the same oil. But i'm using synthetic oil from November to March ,it's not getting thick at low temperature like other natural oils, i don't have problems starting it @ low temp. up here in Canada. See you on ch.19!

[rpm]

You really should try the quad plugs out at the very minimum...after years of having to change standard single and double electrode plugs once every 9 months, I've been using the Bosch platinum ir fusion plugs for almost 40k miles and I haven't had to change them yet.

Every 9 months? That's insane!

[CAP1]

Yeah Cap, the original dual electrode platninums don't perform very well once that core starts to wear...that's why I switched to the quad electrode platinum/iridium models. Pre gapped, no muss, no fuss.

I put a lot of miles on my cars...combo highway/city...through traffic jams and all...for the last 4 years it's been minimum 500 to 600 miles a week running the crap gas sold in Wisconsin...with standard plugs I would set the gap, put them in, check them every 3 months and re-gap as needed...average 9 months of use...no other plugs have been as good as the Bosch quad platinum/ir's...not even the Bosch double platinums...and I still check them every 3 months. And when I buy a car, first thing I do is toss out the dealer plugs, plug wires, filters and fluids.


Eagl...how else would a Dodge 2.0 engine run but poorly? Especially with crappy gasoline...the only engine worse was that Pontiac quad 4.

dodge 2.0 isn't really a bad engine. that's one of the ones in neons i think.....they're not particularily powerful, but i've never seen any reliability problems with them......with the exception of  the cam sensor seal, and one or two i've seen leak oil from the rear corner of the head gasket.

 regardless of the engine, if you were replacing them every 9 months.....somehting is wrong. i didn't change mine that often.....and you read how much i raced mine.......

[Masherbrum]

dodge 2.0 isn't really a bad engine. that's one of the ones in neons i think.....they're not particularily powerful, but i've never seen any reliability problems with them......with the exception of  the cam sensor seal, and one or two i've seen leak oil from the rear corner of the head gasket.

 regardless of the engine, if you were replacing them every 9 months.....somehting is wrong. i didn't change mine that often.....and you read how much i raced mine.......

No kidding, larger forces at work there.   Almost wondering if the Pistons were getting proper combustion.   

Gyrene?   Were the plugs fouled with oil, carbon, etc?

[CAP1]

No kidding, larger forces at work there.   Almost wondering if the Pistons were getting proper combustion.   

Gyrene?   Were the plugs fouled with oil, carbon, etc?

9 months would be kinda quick for carbon.....but oil...i had a chevy that fouled #7 every 4 or 5 months...with oil. took it out, cleaned it, and put it back in.......

[gyrene81]

No kidding, larger forces at work there.   Almost wondering if the Pistons were getting proper combustion.  

Gyrene?   Were the plugs fouled with oil, carbon, etc?

1 was carbon fouled the rest were just round tipped core and brown crusty...like clockwork...almost like they were too hot.

Not anymore though...    142k and going...    

I am talking about over the counter single contact copper and platinum plugs...Champion, AC/Delco, Autolite, Denso, Bosch. Checked the plug wires, boots, etc...for leaks. The quad platinum/ir haven't had any issue at all.

The Dodge 2.0 SOHC isn't as robust as the DOHC model...but you can tweak it some to make it perform better, the only thing I haven't done is reprogram the puter and swap out the air filter...yet.