bombing GV's at Vbases

[Lusche]

Just because you do it, or because HT does not want to change it, it does not mean it is not gaming the game.  You guys keep talking about realism and immersion but only when it is convenient ehh?

I want to be able to get a safe landing right before I get shot if I am over my field.  Home field advantage baby    I mean, you cant expect me to just sit there and get killed, do you?

1st, please show me where I "keep talking about realism and immersion but only when it is convenient ehh?"

2nd, when you are sitting in your plane on the runway, and suddenly you see a vulcher coming in... you know you can't get up, because he's too close - you just sit there and let him shoot you? Do you expect me just sitting in a Panzer or any other GV and wait until that bomb hits me, that is being dropped from altitude without any risk for the attacker?

Oh, and btw regarding that "realism" and "immersion" thing - GV drivers running from their bomb magnets is not a thing unheard of in WWII. 

[dedalos]

1st, please show me where I "keep talking about realism and immersion but only when it is convenient ehh?"

2nd, when you are sitting in your plane on the runway, and suddenly you see a vulcher coming in... you know you can't get up, because he's too close - you just sit there and let him shoot you? Do you expect me just sitting in a Panzer or any other GV and wait until that bomb hits me, that is being dropped from altitude without any risk for the attacker?

Lol, I said you guys.  Players in general.

2nd.  The difference is that the GV was not just spawning without knowledge of a bomb being on the way.  It had been fighting for a while.  Can you tell me if a Panzer crew engaged in battle could even see the plane coming?  How long would it take the driver to get out and out of range of the blast?  No risk to the plane?  Why, there is ack, maned ack, flaks, and other planes that he had to avoid and then he had to aim right, not auger, etc.  I can also give you the crap responses we get on CVs being sunk (if you dont want it sunk, defend it).  If you don't want to get bombed, defend your GVs with flacks.  The moment you get in one, you should expect to get bombed.

Bottom line is, its lame.  Don;t want to get bombed, don't get in one.

So, give me my auto bail over my field to count as a safe landing.  After all, I am over my field, why shouldn't it count my kills?

[Scotty55OEFVet]

Well then that's a bit unfair on the player driving the GV, isn't it.

Seriously, this isn't a big deal at all.  Players (including me, to an extent) who repeatedly bomb GVs are known as 'bomb****s', and with a fairly good reason (yes, I'm VERY proud to be one ).

EDIT: Also, welcome to the forums!!

First, I dont think that WW2 Tank crews were able to "tower out" when they were bombed, second, when did Close Air Support for ground assaults turn into people being bomb****s???  I will bomb GVs all day especially when certain people in this game drive tanks that will kill u with one shot after being hit hit 15-20 times by a more powerful tank.

[crazyivan]

Planes do get an advantage on a home base. They can ditch within 5k of the base I think. I've seen many of peeps game the game that way as well.

[upinair69]

its a skill just like any other defensive moves gotta be quick

[Steve]

Planes do get an advantage on a home base. They can ditch within 5k of the base I think. I've seen many of peeps game the game that way as well.

It's not 5k... you simply have to be closer to a friendly base than an enemy base to successfully ditch.

[bmwgs]

Lol, I said you guys.  Players in general.

2nd.  The difference is that the GV was not just spawning without knowledge of a bomb being on the way.  It had been fighting for a while.  Can you tell me if a Panzer crew engaged in battle could even see the plane coming?  How long would it take the driver to get out and out of range of the blast?  No risk to the plane?  Why, there is ack, maned ack, flaks, and other planes that he had to avoid and then he had to aim right, not auger, etc.  I can also give you the crap responses we get on CVs being sunk (if you dont want it sunk, defend it).  If you don't want to get bombed, defend your GVs with flacks.  The moment you get in one, you should expect to get bombed.

Bottom line is, its lame.  Don;t want to get bombed, don't get in one.

So, give me my auto bail over my field to count as a safe landing.  After all, I am over my field, why shouldn't it count my kills?

Flaks have an effective range of about 1.5K and you better be good to hit at that range.  Realistically they are worthless after 1K.  The field guns effective range is about 2K and you better be good to hit at that range.  They can hit at greater distances, but mostly its luck.

A set of bombers flying at 5000 feet can take out gv's with no danger from the field gun or flaks.  Same can be said for fighters dropping bombs.  They can drop from a height that minimizes their risks.

Now, you can go back to the old tale, "get the fighters to protect you".  In a perfect balanced game that would be great, but not always possible.

I'll go with the delay, but lets puts some 88's on the field.

My Opinion

 

Fred

[LTARghst]

Sounds like tripp he was whining all day about snailman doing this and used the same phrases. 

[Flench]

 

[mbailey]

Sounds like tripp he was whining all day about snailman doing this and used the same phrases.  

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[Crash Orange]

second, when did Close Air Support for ground assaults turn into people being bomb****s??? 

It's become obvious to me that ANY style of play in this game will get you called a 'tard by someone, usually a vocal contingent of someones.

As a result I have concluded that if you're going to enjoy the game, you just have to ignore the people p***ing and moaning about how people like you are ruining the game. (This does not mean that any dweebish thing you do is okay, just that the fact that someone is whining at you means nothing.)

A corollary is that you will never get anywhere criticizing others' style of play, no matter how dweebish you think they're being. Complain if it makes you feel better, but don't expect they'll care or stop doing whatever it is you're complaining about.

[W7LPNRICK]

First, I dont think that WW2 Tank crews were able to "tower out" when they were bombed, second, when did Close Air Support for ground assaults turn into people being bomb****s???  I will bomb GVs all day especially when certain people in this game drive tanks that will kill u with one shot after being hit hit 15-20 times by a more powerful tank.

AMEN!..someone finally said it.... I noticed I get killed with one round depending one who it is, and I'm in a Tiger shooting a Panzer and it takes 5 point blank rounds, well placed to kill the same guy...? I get killed with 2-3 rounds all the time & I can strafe a Wirble getting good hits 4-5 passes in an IK and doen't even smoke him...YES! Time to be a bomb**** & proud of it!   

[crazyivan]

It's not 5k... you simply have to be closer to a friendly base than an enemy base to successfully ditch.

Yes I know forgot to change that but you get the idea. 

[oakranger]

I have noticed the same players over and over towering out when a bomb is headed their way. when you only have 1 bomb this "gaming the game" BS is just that, flaker towers to avoid a bomb only to re-emerge in a flak a second later. why not delay the tower request til AFTER bomb hits the ground and stop the abuse.

Most GV's know how much i am a "bomb****".  It bring joy and warmth to my heart seeing them in M4 s and loosing them perk points.  Here is what i learn, do not go after the GVs on concert.  They will most liky tower, especially if they have kills to land. 

[crazyivan]

i learn, do not go after the GVs on concert.   

Yes my Sherman is a parade princess.