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Offline Anaxogoras

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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2009, 01:14:49 PM »
...Just made it up to 34k with 50% fuel and no bombs in the Lancaster (used an offline air-start).  Film on...we'll see how fast she goes.
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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2009, 01:22:48 PM »
Autopilot won't hold 34k, let alone 31k.  I'm starting to wonder how the pilot in Jayhawk's film even got that fast in the first place. :headscratch:  It looks like ~30k is the highest alt it'll hold.

Edit:  202mph TAS after 5 min at 30k ft.   Jayhawk, can you post your whole film so we can see how that pilot got to 315mph TAS?
« Last Edit: December 23, 2009, 01:31:13 PM by Anaxogoras »
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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2009, 02:23:48 PM »
Let me know if I did this right, first time uploading a film to the BBS.

http://www.mediafire.com/?j1lyw1duzqt

Tell me if I'm wrong or not but it looks like he even reaches 324 at about 32k.
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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2009, 02:29:19 PM »
...Just made it up to 34k with 50% fuel and no bombs in the Lancaster (used an offline air-start).  Film on...we'll see how fast she goes.
I think that 50% fuel is close to enough to fly across the map twice in the Lancaster. Take up 25%.

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« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2009, 02:33:06 PM »
I think that 50% fuel is close to enough to fly across the map twice in the Lancaster. Take up 25%.

You have to take into accoutn that climbing to 30+ k takes a lot of time. And you don't just want to get there, you want to make it to target and (hopefully back). And of course a smart buff driver would climb to alt before entering enemy airspace - so in case he's going to bomb strats, he will still have quite some way to go.

When you take 50%, you will have just about 35 mins of fuel left when reaching 30k.

Loadout: 50% fuel, 14x1000 lbs bombs
Time to climb to
- 10K: 15 minutes
- 15K: 21 minutes
- 20K: 30 minutes
- 25K: 42 minutes
- 30K: 61 minutes
- 34k: 75 minutes

When I crossed 34k, the autopilot couldn't climb anymore, the plane went into an oscillating movement.

« Last Edit: December 23, 2009, 02:46:24 PM by Lusche »
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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2009, 09:16:19 AM »
Did you try level flight?
Anyway, with 14K of eggs, that is allright. Now, how about 8K of eggs?
(Still more than a B-17 :D)
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« Reply #36 on: December 26, 2009, 04:52:35 PM »
Anyway, with 14K of eggs, that is allright. Now, how about 8K of eggs?
(Still more than a B-17 :D)

I don't think that 2k more does justify much longer climbing times and much smaller survivability compared to a B-17  ;)
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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2009, 10:09:11 PM »
my guess is the lanc driver was in a dive, probably manual trimmed.

when i played AH2 (new job pulled me away) i flew lancs regularly and when i saw an enemy con, at a low alt, my "defense" tactic was to match his speed and alt if possible i.e. a low con spotted climbing anywhere from the 4 to 8 o'clock position, i would turn to put him dead six and dive. this brought him into range of my guns, at a speed in which i had plenty of time to shoot at him,(the closer the speeds are the longer the con sits in range of my guns) but where was still climbing with little E, and (relatively) unable to maneuver. im not saying this is the best tactic or for everyone, but hey the game is meant to be fun right? also worth noting, i usually wouldnt do this if i had eggs, this was on the rtb leg of the sortie.

my $.02 and perhaps this is what the lanc driver was attempting to do

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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #38 on: December 27, 2009, 12:39:43 AM »
I did post the film.
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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #39 on: December 27, 2009, 04:11:42 AM »
I don't think that 2k more does justify much longer climbing times and much smaller survivability compared to a B-17  ;)

Have you tested how well the Lanc performs with the same load as a B-17???
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Re: Lancs are Fast
« Reply #40 on: December 28, 2009, 05:14:58 AM »
I think that 50% fuel is close to enough to fly across the map twice in the Lancaster. Take up 25%.

never flown a lanc? We need 75% now to hit these new strats. 50% is about 100-150miles short on range. 75% is way too much fuel :(
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