Game is reaching new lows.

[CAP1]

My latest trick is using a Spitty 1 or Boston...either way they think you're an easy target, and get lax and stupid.

actually, when i see an a20, i assume it's either cobia, or snaphook........

[HighGTrn]

What amazes me is that people are still playing a game that is allegedly reaching new lows every month since 1999... 

Well said my German friend.  I actually wrote a long reply to this thread but decided it was a waste of time.  Just fly a faster plane.  When they run, you catch them.  If you can't catch them, don't follow them all the way back to their base because you know there will be uppers there unless you are accepting the possibility of getting gang'd.  If they fly into ack, don't follow them into ack.  Find another victim.  

I've not been around as long as Lucshe but I too have seen posts about how bad the game is getting in my short 3 years of playing.  Hogwash (and no that doesn't mean a bikkini F4-U wash).

S1n1ster

[Shuffler]

Im relativly new here but have hear the same 'issues' in other sims and other times.

I fight to live, if that means running, I run.  if that means a deliberate HO to escape, I will HO.

Dont ask me to fight YOUR fight when its not in MY best interest

Heaven forbid you try to improve in any manner.

[CountD90]

I ran into a P47-M last night in my 109G2, he had about 5k alt on me and I was at 10k. He kept BnZing with no success and when I finally equaled out the E and alt he flipped over and dove for the deck. I followed him all the way down, latched onto his 6 the entire way. I leveled out at 3k while he was on the deck, he ended up having to climb to avoid a hill which is where i caught him and knocked his wing clear off. Got the "how can a 109 keep up with a P47M in a dive, thats BS!" argument. I replied with something extremely simple, "Dont run next time learn to fight it out, you might learn something."

I dont understand why some must feel the need to run from a 1v1, I have ran from 3v1s and some 2v1s if I'm at a real disadvantage but 1v1s can easily flip around in your favor with the fight moves. When I first started playing I got shot down over and over and over with out end, but I saw what my opponent was doing and slowly I picked up the moves. By running you gain nothing other than possibly saving your cartoon plane. By staying and fighting, yes you may get shot down but you have the chance of learning something new.

[SunBat]

A high ranking player had picked a handful of countrymen and was extending out with his wingman and with me on his 6, knowing he had 5 to 8 seconds left before a likely death, the wingman reversed (didnt fire) and deliberately rammed me.

So wish I had the film, would have posted it in a flash.

The 'vets' flying with their disposable weenie wingmen wind me up the most.

If you didn't film it, how do you know who it was?

[CountD90]

Shuffler has it on point..... Doing that stuff is pointless, if you wanna fly to live learn to fly better than your opponent, not cheap shot him every chance you get.

[minke]

If you didn't film it, how do you know who it was?

Because it was put out on range.

[SunBat]

Because it was put out on range.

Ahhh, rgr.   

[Lusche]

If you didn't film it, how do you know who it was?

Usually people report it if they have been shot down by anyone (in-)famous. So if he had picked a few, word is spreading quickly over vox "I'm going down, it's that Snailtard in the 262..." 

[gyrene81]

Heaven forbid you try to improve in any manner.

No offense Shuffler but...what exactly is the improvement if someone is fighting your fight? There isn't one person in this game that hasn't lost a dogfight even using all of his "skillz" and some uber ride. If 2 Spixteens want to mix it up that's great but it's rarely that kind of situation...so the person who feels as if he is at some sort of disadvantage due to either his knowledge and ability in executing ACM or the plane he chose to fly...should fight on whatever terms he feels are appropriate, not yours. If you want to force your fight on him, there are ways other than calling implying he has a lack of skill just because he doesn't want to fight on your terms.

[Soulyss]

Im relativly new here but have hear the same 'issues' in other sims and other times.

I fight to live, if that means running, I run.  if that means a deliberate HO to escape, I will HO.

Dont ask me to fight YOUR fight when its not in MY best interest

Ultimately I would think your best interest would be to improve at the game so that you don't have to run or HO in as many situations.  The problem with both tactics is that they ultimately are self defeating if you look at it from a point of view of skill development.  Speaking as someone who's been here for awhile now (but still a young in' compared to some of these folks ) you have to sometimes look at the longer development arc and not at the immediate gratification that comes with not getting shot down and strike a balance between the two.  Getting shot down repeatedly is no fun we can pretty much all agree on that, however facing down a situation where you know in the past you've lost and coming out the victor, learning, improving is very satisfying.  So maybe you (generic you) still avoid engaging in the two or three on one, but the next time there's a higher con and it's a 1v1 stick it out and fight, ask questions, get better.  I really believe it's more fun for everyone if we can all try to bring the average skill level up.

[The Fugitive]

In simple terms,

if you run from fights all you learn is how to run.
if you deliberately HO, all you learn is how to HO.

If you try some of the "pilot sh@t" you learn what works sometimes and what doesn't work.

[Chalenge]

A high ranking player had picked a handful of countrymen and was extending out with his wingman and with me on his 6, knowing he had 5 to 8 seconds left before a likely death, the wingman reversed (didnt fire) and deliberately rammed me.

So wish I had the film, would have posted it in a flash.

The 'vets' flying with their disposable weenie wingmen wind me up the most.

This is total BS. How can the other guy even know where you are? unless you decide to follow straight through on a HO and he rolls 90 degrees and does the same? You cant. There is no way to deliberately RAM unless both parties cooperate.

[minke]

One instant way of getting more out of the game is to do everything you can to avoid the HO. That said,when i'm in my 190 and if someone insists on it,they get a couple of free passes, I'll fire on the third.

[BiPoLaR]

There is no way to deliberately RAM unless both parties cooperate.

Wrong all knowing almighty know all.

Fly a sortie with me. I ram on purpose whether they want me to or not.
Im sure a few on here will agree with me.

So please know whats your talking about before you post your nonsense.