Game is reaching new lows.

[grizz441]

The only "lows" I've run into lately are the supposedly "superior" name pile-its waffling about in 262s cherry picking.

Had 3 months off. Had some brilliant fights in the last couple of days and some awesome furballs.

How do you think jets should be used, TnBing on the deck by newbs?

[BiPoLaR]

How do you think jets should be used, TnBing on the deck by newbs?

your a newb im a n00b and ummm 262s noobs are kewl

[palef]

How do you think jets should be used, TnBing on the deck by newbs?

Absolutely. 

[BiPoLaR]

Absolutely. 

look forward to seeing ya do this 

[JimmyC]

  sounds fun
how do I start the engine

[save]

^^First you have to light a match inside the fuel tank to see that you have enough fuel for a turn and burn session...

[dedalos]

Here is what is really funny.

If you say good fight to someone you may get no response, a thank you, or a <S>
If you say nice shot to someone you may get no response, a thank you, or a <S>
If you say nice running to someone that just run for 3 sectors, you WILL get a screen full on 200, few BBS posts, comments about your mother, etc
if you say nice HO to someone, (look above)
if you say nice pick, gang, etc etc, (look above)

So, if running, HOing, picking, flying at 40K etc are skills, smart flying, realistic, playing to survive, and what ever else you guys claim them to be, why do you get all worked up about it?  Why don't you see it as a compliment?  I think we all know why

[Oldman731]

It's only fun when you have a reasonable chance of winning, and the vets saying, "I enjoy the pure fun of combat" is basically bullshi*.

I contest this.

People talking about this subject break down into two groups.  The sim people want to duplicate real life combat as much as possible.  Let's put them aside, because within their logic they're absolutely right:  there's no reason to fight a fair fight.

The other group perceives AH2 to be either a sport or a game, pretty similar concepts.  I sense that you, and most of the posters in this thread, are in this group.  Some in the group fit your description; they would be happy if they were the Dallas Cowboys playing against the local high school team.  But not nearly all of them are like that.  I am fortunate to fly regularly against very competent people.  Take Dedalos as an example.  I'm not sure that I've ever shot him down (perhaps once, when he was hobbled by an A8).  I can be almost certain that I will lose every time I fly against him.  Yet those are the fights that I consider most fun, because each one is a challenge, each one lasts a little bit longer than the previous one, and each one makes me better electronic pilot.  I think there are quite a few people like me who enjoy the process, quite apart from the result.

So:  I enjoy the pure fun of combat, and that's no bull.

- oldman

[Lusche]

So, if running, HOing, picking, flying at 40K etc are skills, smart flying, realistic, playing to survive, and what ever else you guys claim them to be, why do you get all worked up about it?  Why don't you see it as a compliment?

Because quite often it's just nonsense. Pure EGO stuff. People call out weak HO's when there was none at all. People type "nice pick" when them and their enemy where the only cons around, and they just failed to evade his attack.
Fly home because your out of ammo or low on fuel, and you will be called a "runner". Try to land at your own airfield and you will be called a lame ack hugger. Same when taking off, but being unable to leave field ack because of that 3-4 P-47's hovering above field only waiting to swoop down on you. At 15k you will be called an alt-monkey by someone at 14k.

Two days ago a Yak-T tried to bounce my Tempest short after takeoff. I was hanging there like a pregnant hippo for a moment, dropped my DT's evaded his initial attack, then put my nose down to get up to speed and get some seperation. I was just going from D600 to D800 (!) when I was called a runner... At first I thought he was joking and trying to tricking me into a bad move... but he was serious. At D1000 I pulled up and tried to take it into the vertical and rope him. I wasn't flying very good that day, so it took me 2 attempts I think. He couldn't follow me,I went over the top, he got killed - and of course he accused me of trying to HO him.

I don't know why... but the only real "lows" I see in player behaviour lately. Cheat accusations, PM vox insults, mass .reports without reason, testosterone loaded "I pwn you" stuff on 200, whiney excuses when someone was shot down...

[thndregg]

I don't know why... but the only real "lows" I see in player behaviour lately. Cheat accusations, PM vox insults, mass .reports without reason, testosterone loaded "I pwn you" stuff on 200, whiney excuses when someone was shot down...

It's an "anonymous tough guy" thing.

[dhyran]

Because quite often it's just nonsense. Pure EGO stuff. People call out weak HO's when there was none at all. People type "nice pick" when them and their enemy where the only cons around, and they just failed to evade his attack.
Fly home because your out of ammo or low on fuel, and you will be called a "runner". Try to land at your own airfield and you will be called a lame ack hugger. Same when taking off, but being unable to leave field ack because of that 3-4 P-47's hovering above field only waiting to swoop down on you. At 15k you will be called an alt-monkey by someone at 14k.

Two days ago a Yak-T tried to bounce my Tempest short after takeoff. I was hanging there like a pregnant hippo for a moment, dropped my DT's evaded his initial attack, then put my nose down to get up to speed and get some seperation. I was just going from D600 to D800 (!) when I was called a runner... At first I thought he was joking and trying to tricking me into a bad move... but he was serious. At D1000 I pulled up and tried to take it into the vertical and rope him. I wasn't flying very good that day, so it took me 2 attempts I think. He couldn't follow me,I went over the top, he got killed - and of course he accused me of trying to HO him.

I don't know why... but the only real "lows" I see in player behaviour lately. Cheat accusations, PM vox insults, mass .reports without reason, testosterone loaded "I pwn you" stuff on 200, whiney excuses when someone was shot down...

well, lusche,

just don't care about the whiners. i was lot of times called a picker, alt monkey,  a runner, and much more crap. I simply didnt answerd anymore, but i took some time to analyse the whiners score!
What do you expect? those loudest whiners got the worst scores. They need every whine to stay in the game, its not their fault, its allways all others......they need to cry for their own ego. instead of trying to learn, doing some training, the cry and cry. i simply dont get behind it. how do they act in real life when something fails? when a project runs out of time? ok, i know, not their own faults, just bad education by their parents......

You never see those whiners inside the first places of an scenario! That says it all. Because they simply can't fly, they havent the patiance to wait for the perfect situation to attack.
Those whiners are funny sometimes... but not all the time  

[CAP1]

^^First you have to light a match inside the fuel tank to see that you have enough fuel for a turn and burn session...

did you know gasoline is a non-flammable liquid?

[waystin2]

I don't know why... but the only real "lows" I see in player behaviour lately. Cheat accusations, PM vox insults, mass .reports without reason, testosterone loaded "I pwn you" stuff on 200, whiney excuses when someone was shot down...

Yep!

[dedalos]

Because quite often it's just nonsense. Pure EGO stuff. People call out weak HO's when there was none at all. People type "nice pick" when them and their enemy where the only cons around, and they just failed to evade his attack.
Fly home because your out of ammo or low on fuel, and you will be called a "runner". Try to land at your own airfield and you will be called a lame ack hugger. Same when taking off, but being unable to leave field ack because of that 3-4 P-47's hovering above field only waiting to swoop down on you. At 15k you will be called an alt-monkey by someone at 14k.

Two days ago a Yak-T tried to bounce my Tempest short after takeoff. I was hanging there like a pregnant hippo for a moment, dropped my DT's evaded his initial attack, then put my nose down to get up to speed and get some seperation. I was just going from D600 to D800 (!) when I was called a runner... At first I thought he was joking and trying to tricking me into a bad move... but he was serious. At D1000 I pulled up and tried to take it into the vertical and rope him. I wasn't flying very good that day, so it took me 2 attempts I think. He couldn't follow me,I went over the top, he got killed - and of course he accused me of trying to HO him.

I don't know why... but the only real "lows" I see in player behaviour lately. Cheat accusations, PM vox insults, mass .reports without reason, testosterone loaded "I pwn you" stuff on 200, whiney excuses when someone was shot down...

Haha, you cant run for 3 sectors if you are out of fuel.  I agree with what you wrote, however, I obviously was not talking about those situations.  

Actually, last night I had to make a run for it when I ran out of ammo and fuel.  I stayed with the fight until both were gone.  When ammo was out, I told them I was heading back.  PotsNpans had the means to get me at that point but he decided to find a real fight since a 109 with 2 minutes of fuel and 0 rounds was going to be a kill, but not fun.  The F4U however (that had been trying to get a pick in for the past 15 minutes) saw his chance for finally getting a kill and gave chase.  At d800 I turned around and after half a turn I pulled the trigger.  Oups, no ammo I forgot lol.  looped over and could not find him anywhere.  When I found him he was 3K away.  The point is, we both "ran" at the end, but I had a blast fighting Pots in his 205.  I can only imagine the F4Us frustration of having to run from a plane he was chasing lol .  So, there is running and there is "running".  Its when they are "running" that the coments about someones mother start.

[ROX]

Just an idea....

But why not de-tune 200?  Why not just ignore PM's?

You just might have a more fun game experience.




ROX