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Offline AWwrgwy

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Re: 88s
« Reply #45 on: November 11, 2009, 12:14:09 PM »
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Re: 88s
« Reply #46 on: November 11, 2009, 12:19:11 PM »
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Re: 88s
« Reply #47 on: November 11, 2009, 12:26:19 PM »
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Re: 88s
« Reply #48 on: November 11, 2009, 12:27:51 PM »
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Re: 88s
« Reply #49 on: December 26, 2009, 08:35:55 PM »
The 88's were wonderful in anti-tank role until the British figured out how to stop them.  The Brit's would lose a tank to direct 88mm fire, the next few tanks would back away, lob in some indirect HE fire and take out the 88mm.  The 88mm was not armored of course and quite susceptible to HE whether from gv's or planes carrying bombs.  Should make it a good fight with one or two batteries of 3 88's positions per base instead of the just 1 or 2 "soft guns" = single barrel 37 or 40 mm.

And wow, if we could take an 88 off base up into the surrounding hills!

For use in AAA role, the Germans set up "boxes" in the sky and had a squadron of 88's fill the box on command.  Don't know if a single 88 could ever hit a high flying bomber one on one.  It was a percentage game.  To be effective in that role, the gamer should actually be firing a battery of three 88's.

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Re: 88s
« Reply #50 on: December 26, 2009, 08:43:27 PM »
Just a note on 88 mm realism.  My father was at Anzio with the 45th Infantry Division (and a few other guys).  He was delivering ammo - a jeep with 2 wheel ammo carrier truck attached.  When he stopped, the Germans, having the high ground in the hills around Anzio, had him spotted him.  They through a single 88mm shell at him.  It landed right between the jeep and the truck.  Now that is accuracy.

Fortunately for my father (and me), the shell did not explode and merely covered him with dirt. 



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Re: 88s
« Reply #51 on: December 26, 2009, 09:28:24 PM »
Yes, I know that. But we have the Tiger for all sides in AH2. It wouldn't have been so efective agains the Tiger. I'm not saying it wouldn't pose a conciderable threat, but just that it isn't a server destroying issue.

 
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Re: 88s
« Reply #52 on: December 27, 2009, 04:14:56 PM »
you want to upset somebody in a tiger.  put a round right in the turret.  that will knock its main gun out.  then just laugh about it and wait till he turns around to leave then shoot him in the back.  ok back to the 88's that would be awesome addition to the game.

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Re: 88s
« Reply #53 on: December 28, 2009, 01:50:19 PM »
+1

Every time this is wished for I wonder what the minimum effective range of the 88 or a gun that size was.

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"Designed as an anti-aircraft gun that could hurl heavy flak 14km(9 miles)high, the German 88 proved a fearsome weapon in the Desert War.  It unleashed 20HV rounds a minute.  With an effective horizontal range of over 9km(6 iles)its devastating fire could put any tank out of action". 
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Re: 88s
« Reply #54 on: December 28, 2009, 02:01:35 PM »
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The 88's were wonderful in anti-tank role until the British figured out how to stop them.  The Brit's would lose a tank to direct 88mm fire, the next few tanks would back away, lob in some indirect HE fire and take out the 88mm.

Did they ask for volunteers in the first tank ?  :bolt:
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Re: 88s
« Reply #55 on: December 29, 2009, 06:48:45 PM »
Yes, god bless your father and the "Greatest Generation".  I have read a lot of the Second World War.  I served 3 1/2 years in the Army and served overseas.  In one of my books, I read a verse that read: "The 88 converted more men to Christianity then Peter and Paul combined".  It was an amazing weapon.  The round traveled at such a velocity that you would be dead before you heard it.  And asd for theyre accuracy, form the book D-Day by Stephen Ambrose.  A soldier on an LVT(coast guard it think).  He said something along the lines of, "the Germans(this is an 88 he was talking about) put a shell 100 yards to our left, 100 yard to our right, the third shell landed on the Coxswains head."  Amazing!
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