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Offline Chalenge

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Iwo Mustangs
« on: January 10, 2010, 02:33:22 AM »
Why doesnt the Mustang have 165 gallon drop tanks? Iwo Mustangs had them. Iwo Mustangs also carried rockets which I believe was disputed before. I still dont have evidence of ten rocket loads but I do have evidence of 165 gallon tanks and six rockets.

I wish for larger 165 gallon external fuel tanks for the P-51D.
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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2010, 04:37:19 AM »
Why?


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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2010, 05:00:25 AM »
He could climb higher  :noid
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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2010, 05:05:41 AM »
He can take up more fuel that he can save at 30k :D


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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2010, 05:28:51 AM »
Why should P51s have 165 gallon 'P38 tanks' when the P38s don't even have them?

The answer is AH doesn't need them, we aren't flying anywhere near the distances the Pacific Mustangs did. Well, some of us are, but just vertically.  :devil

edit: I only flew a great distance once. In the DGS scenario, the 474th flew about 18 sectors with the bombers. As the bombers got to their primary target, it had 10/10 cloud cover and had to move to a secondary (which had the same) and then the tertiary while defending them from the Luftwaffe. I ended up landing with 8 gallons of fuel after burning the DTs dry and then the internal.
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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2010, 02:44:06 PM »
Because we have a 2:1 fuel modifier and since the plane actually used them during the war it should have them.
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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2010, 03:03:55 PM »
Why should P51s have 165 gallon 'P38 tanks' when the P38s don't even have them?

The answer is AH doesn't need them, we aren't flying anywhere near the distances the Pacific Mustangs did. Well, some of us are, but just vertically.  :devil

edit: I only flew a great distance once. In the DGS scenario, the 474th flew about 18 sectors with the bombers. As the bombers got to their primary target, it had 10/10 cloud cover and had to move to a secondary (which had the same) and then the tertiary while defending them from the Luftwaffe. I ended up landing with 8 gallons of fuel after burning the DTs dry and then the internal.
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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2010, 03:29:58 PM »
Because we have a 2:1 fuel modifier and since the plane actually used them during the war it should have them.

you want to fly for hours up a buff  :devil.

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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2010, 05:00:10 PM »
So I just flew a simple test to look at the numbers. I took off and did an AH full power climb to 20,000 feet with 100% internal + DT's and the heavy gun package.

With the fuel burn set to 2.0 I climbed to 20,000 feet and leveled. Once I got to 340 TAS I set for maximum cruise according to my P-51D-5 Manual.

It stated 2,400rpm and 36" MAP for Maximum Cruise, the ingame E6B gave me the following data;

TAS- 330 mph
Time- 150 minutes
Range- 831 miles

Do you really need to loiter for longer than that in the MA?
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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2010, 05:09:43 PM »
I'm guessing he wants the bigger drop tank, so he can dump it and have 50% internal (maybe 30 min full throttle?), in the event he actually stumbles into someone higher than he and has to do that dogfighting stuff :D
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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2010, 06:32:43 PM »
See here, the Mustang flies for like 35 minutes with 75% internal. Who the devil WANTS to sit a chair longer than that without getting a coke, taking a leak, or seeing whats on ESPN?
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2010, 09:00:20 PM »
I agree with Del, why should the P-51 get drop tanks that were primarily used by the P-38 when the Lightning doesn't even have them in game?


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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2010, 09:41:58 PM »
Why doesnt the Mustang have 165 gallon drop tanks? Iwo Mustangs had them. Iwo Mustangs also carried rockets which I believe was disputed before. I still dont have evidence of ten rocket loads but I do have evidence of 165 gallon tanks and six rockets.

I wish for larger 165 gallon external fuel tanks for the P-51D.

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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2010, 11:15:24 PM »
+1 for including the droptanks for BOTH P-51 and P-38. The tanks were used and should be available for both planes. Why anyone would use them is their own business.  :joystick:  :aok
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Re: Iwo Mustangs
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2010, 11:45:48 PM »
Why doesnt the Mustang have 165 gallon drop tanks? Iwo Mustangs had them. Iwo Mustangs also carried rockets which I believe was disputed before. I still dont have evidence of ten rocket loads but I do have evidence of 165 gallon tanks and six rockets.

I wish for larger 165 gallon external fuel tanks for the P-51D.

I've posted numerous photos of the Iwo Rocket carrying birds, and we've had the discussion about 10 rockets and how they were not carried on the Iwo birds or on the later Korean war 51s.  Understand the Iwo 51s carried the 165 gallon tanks rarely and it was because of the rocket load causing the 51 to burn more fuel on the way to Japan.  They did not carry rockets very often and the normal load out was 2 110 gallon metal DTs.
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