Strange P-39 stall - finally caught on film.

[Demetrious]

It also had the somewhat controversial reputation to tumble, combat pilots certainly felt that it would and could however Bell test pilots apparently could never replicate it under test conditions. 

Eventually Bell sent a test pilot and technician to Russia to deal with the very loud and angry gripes of the Russians using the P-39, and a Russian pilot promptly took up a P-39 and demonstrated the dreaded flat spin that had been plaguing them constantly. The technician, enlightened, did an investigation into how the Russians were loading them up and discovered that they were flying them nose-light- after the heavy ammo for the 37mm gun was expended. They even had a note in the manual somewhere that the nose should be filled with a box of empty shells for transfer flights, to give it some ballast. That solved the dreaded flat spin, to a degree, but even after that the P-39 was always prone to very, very nasty stalls.

[JunkyII]

Boozeman,
Spit 5 suffers a similar nose down stall like that one there. Problem is your not fast enough to pull up that hard. In that situation I dont suggest you do that again your nose was already going up, you can change your angle a bit then pull nose up when the 38 pulls for the shot.





other dude needs more time in a 152 I think

[Boozeman]

Junky, you may want to take a look on my 3rd film, some where on page 2. In that case, my airspeed was well over 200 (230 in fact when i crashed) and still no elevator authority. At that speed, you should be able to make a pullout.

But thanks for the Spit5 tip, i'll check it out.   

[JunkyII]

wooowooo you were at 200 when that stall happened? bloody hell then I got no answer for you

[warphoenix]

Junky, you may want to take a look on my 3rd film, some where on page 2. In that case, my airspeed was well over 200 (230 in fact when i crashed) and still no elevator authority. At that speed, you should be able to make a pullout.

But thanks for the Spit5 tip, i'll check it out.   
[/quote230 thats wierd

tbms some times stall out and the elevator stays in nose down position any tips

[Ack-Ack]

Junky, you may want to take a look on my 3rd film, some where on page 2. In that case, my airspeed was well over 200 (230 in fact when i crashed) and still no elevator authority. At that speed, you should be able to make a pullout.

But thanks for the Spit5 tip, i'll check it out.  
[/quote230 thats wierd

tbms some times stall out and the elevator stays in nose down position any tips

If you stall out a TBM, you're pulling on the stick too hard and entering into an accelerated stall.  Go to the TA and have a trainer work with you on BFM (Basic Flight Maneuvers) so you'll be able to turn a plane without stalling it in.


ack-ack

[warphoenix]

my question in a quote was an accident