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Offline RAM

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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2000, 11:27:00 AM »
Then what about this?
Envolved from lightweight, high altitude interceptor design

P47 was developed from prewar fighters, all heavy, From Seversky to Republic, all Fighter designs were heavyloads...

So that isnt true, either.

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2000, 07:35:00 PM »
Quote from http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/p47_1.html:

The P-47 as originally conceived was quite different from the aircraft which was ultimately to emerge from the Republic factories. On August 1, 1939, Kartveli, in response to an official requirement, proposed a lightweight high-altitude interceptor to the USAAC under the company designation of AP-10.

What do you say to that, RAM?  

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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2000, 08:38:00 PM »
That they failed miserably  

hehehe ok ok ok...if 0.7% is to be readed as 7%, and getting out that it was a big ugly sucker (hehe  ), then its okay, its a P47  

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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2000, 10:29:00 PM »
.7% is correct.  This is the loss/sortie, ie if 100 Jugs flew 10 combat sorties each, on average 7 would be lost (7/1000).  This was considered a very low attrition rate.

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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2000, 09:10:00 AM »
Yups, Ra got it right..it's on a per sortie basis.
It also destroyed more enemy aircraft than any other US plane.
Why it isnt in AH boggles me  

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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2000, 09:17:00 PM »
LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Thats a joke right?  Prettier than a Spitfire, <snicker>.

It is a joke?

Right?

Come on, you're scaring me.  You've gotta be joking.

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« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2000, 05:45:00 AM »
I'd be interested in seeing the "official" statistikcs with regards to enemy fighter aircraft destroyed in the air/P-47's lost.

Also, improperly used statistics can sometimes be counterproductive. I am not saying it is the case now, but if I have 5000 decent fighters, and 10 really good, I expect the 5000 decent fighters to shoot down more aircraft alltogether.

What was the plane-for-plane kill/death ratio for the P-47?


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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2000, 06:45:00 AM »
4.6:1 iirc

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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2000, 08:14:00 AM »
You guys are right,

The Jug isn't prettier than the Spitfire.  Pretty is a description for girly kinda planes (well...like the Spitfire), while big solid manly planes are Handsome, Rugged or Awe Inspiring! (Like the Jug or Corsair)<G,D,R>

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« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2000, 01:11:00 PM »
Heh, when I think of the P-47 I always think of that quote that goes SOMETHING like:

"Yeah, tho I fly through the valley of death, I shall fear no evil, for I fly the biggest, baddest, meanest mother f*cker in the valley!"

Heheheh.  Speed, strength, and firepower... what more could you possibly ask for?  Ok, I suppose climb rate would be nice, but that turning stuff is for wussies.  

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« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2000, 05:09:00 PM »
Thats right Lephturn !

That turning crap is just a good way to get killed!  

Of course thats why those Nancy Boys make such Juicy targets  

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« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2000, 07:25:00 AM »
K/D for the 47 was 8:1

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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2000, 08:23:00 AM »
Pretty close to its average numerical advantage in each fight then Daff  

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« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2000, 08:35:00 AM »
Nice troll, bmjk..and I'll bite too  .
While the P-47's (And allieds) did get the numerical advantage in the air later on, The P-47's proved themselves against both equal and superior numbers...Add to that, the LW were fighting over homeground.

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« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2000, 03:29:00 AM »
Curses! Foiled again! *twirls moustache*